{"id":137364,"date":"2018-10-19T17:43:06","date_gmt":"2018-10-19T23:43:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2018\/10\/19\/religious-freedom-is-not-just-about-discriminating-against-the-gays.html"},"modified":"2018-10-19T17:43:06","modified_gmt":"2018-10-19T23:43:06","slug":"religious-freedom-is-not-just-about-discriminating-against-the-gays","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2018\/10\/19\/religious-freedom-is-not-just-about-discriminating-against-the-gays.html","title":{"rendered":"&quot;Religious Freedom&quot; is not just about discriminating against The Gays"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It&#39;s about discriminating against <i>everyone else.<\/i><\/p>\n<p>And, in the case of Miracle Hill Ministries, that means not letting anyone mentor or foster children in their care &#8212; for which they get oodles of state money &#8212; who isn&#39;t a (straight) Protestant Christian who&#39;s able to offer a proper testimony from their pastor. Not just gays, but Jews, Catholics, atheists, Buddhists, or unchurched need not apply.<\/p>\n<p>That would be sketchy enough as it is, but that they get <i>taxpayer money<\/i> (money raised not just by RightThinking Christian Protestants, but Jews and Catholics and atheists and Buddhists, etc.) to discriminate on the basis of religion is intolerable. Yet all expectations are that that the federal Dept. of Health &amp; Human Services is going to agree that the Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA) means that Miracle Hill can accept taxpayer money via state contracts and still discriminate based on religion.<\/p>\n<p>Ironically, the article includes an interview with a Jewish woman who was discriminated against by Miracle Hill &#8230; but nonetheless she&#39;s a staunch Trump supporter.<\/p>\n<p><i>&ldquo;I think that if Trump knew about this in detail, he wouldn&rsquo;t be for it,&rdquo; Lesser said. &ldquo;Because he&rsquo;s not a religious nut.&rdquo; She&rsquo;s a proud supporter of the president &mdash; and, she offered, she wanted Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh to be confirmed.<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Yeah, let me know how that works out for you, Ms Lesser.<\/p>\n<p>[h\/t <span class=\"proflinkWrapper\"><span class=\"proflinkPrefix\">+<\/span><a class=\"proflink\" href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/109916779695016690032\" oid=\"109916779695016690032\">Stan Pedzick<\/a><\/span>]<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"sm2wp\"><p>\n<a style='display:inline;' href='https:\/\/theintercept.com\/2018\/10\/19\/south-carolina-foster-parent-discrimination-miracle-hill-ministries\/'><br \/>\n<img src='https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/proxy\/XFgj_iz7PZJDEa6GHQw432g2AStsDx3-2DIYsTS60EJl4jrMu3JVvbj9vLCc5eRvhk2PWYLw6C7hY5JjCdkDLB1yRjsutbrDNn7KwzM_ncycQ-3icOVUVMpnpj3R3k8ybVdnJBIudBKmuhDVxbfdyJamKXJvG-SFBnG2LLoQeFLxOaeySlU-TTZNJXxreIAgpoYGyFZLoFvuRnzLnU5es0rE68U=w506-h910' border='0' style='max-width:650px;'\/><br \/>\n<\/a><br \/>\n<span style='font-size:large;'><a href='https:\/\/theintercept.com\/2018\/10\/19\/south-carolina-foster-parent-discrimination-miracle-hill-ministries\/'>South Carolina Is Lobbying to Allow Discrimination Against Jewish Parents<\/a><\/span><br \/>\nOne Protestant group wants the federal government to sponsor discrimination.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style='font-size:small;'><a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/+DaveHill47\/posts\/XbxnEBXb2ZC'>Original Post<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It&#39;s about discriminating against everyone else. And, in the case of Miracle Hill Ministries, that means not letting anyone mentor or foster children in their care &#8212; for which they get oodles of state money &#8212; who isn&#39;t a (straight) Protestant Christian who&#39;s able to offer a proper testimony from their pastor. Not just gays, &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2018\/10\/19\/religious-freedom-is-not-just-about-discriminating-against-the-gays.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;&quot;Religious Freedom&quot; is not just about discriminating against The Gays&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-137364","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":133308,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2017\/04\/21\/religious-freedom-for-me-but-not-for-thee-from-russia-with-love-edition.html","url_meta":{"origin":137364,"position":0},"title":"Religious Freedom for Me but Not for Thee (From Russia with Love Edition)","author":"***Dave","date":"Fri 21-Apr-17 10:43am","format":false,"excerpt":"Over the past few years, even through to the present, Vladimir Putin has been a poster child for elements of evangelical Christianity in the US. \"He's standing up to gays!\" they shout. \"He's standing up to Muslims! He's making the official church of Russia strong!\"Whether or not persecuting gays and\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":137869,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2019\/02\/19\/oh-you-mean-religious-freedom-means-people-can-discriminate-against-me.html","url_meta":{"origin":137364,"position":1},"title":"Oh, you mean &quot;religious freedom&quot; means people can discriminate against ME?","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 19-Feb-19 10:24pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Yeah, lots of people love pounding the \"religious freedom\" drum -- \"I shouldn't have to associate with \/ offer services to \/ dispense medicine for \/ accept customers who are those types of people\" -- when they think that they're part of \"Us,\" not one of \"Them.\"So there are certainly\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":32527,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/02\/15\/free-to-be-you-and-me.html","url_meta":{"origin":137364,"position":2},"title":"Free To Be You and Me","author":"***Dave","date":"Fri 15-Feb-13 7:49am","format":false,"excerpt":"I continue to be honestly puzzled by this line of rhetorical attack. \u00a0Do these folks saying this really believe it, or are they just casting around for a political argument to use in their cause and latch onto one that seems parallel -- \"No, it's not about you being discriminated\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":24935,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/12\/30\/is-discriminating-against-discrimination-discrimination.html","url_meta":{"origin":137364,"position":3},"title":"Is discriminating against discrimination discrimination?","author":"***Dave","date":"Fri 30-Dec-11 10:23am","format":false,"excerpt":"Not when it's Your Tax Dollars At Work, in my opinion. 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Picarello Jr., general counsel and associate general secretary of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, disagreed. \u201cIt\u2019s true that the church doesn\u2019t have a First Amendment right to have a government contract,\u201d he said, \u201cbut it\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":41845,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/04\/28\/discrimination-for-the-goose-is-not-discrimination-for-the-gander.html","url_meta":{"origin":137364,"position":4},"title":"Discrimination for the goose is not discrimination for the gander","author":"***Dave","date":"Mon 28-Apr-14 11:16pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Apparently it's okay for Mississippi to pass a law saying that people can exercise their religious feelings to deny service to gay customers -- because that's all about \"religious freedom.\"But when various businesses start putting up signs saying they won't discriminate and that they welcome any customer, gay or straight,\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":132426,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/12\/23\/religious-freedom-for-atheists-too.html","url_meta":{"origin":137364,"position":5},"title":"Religious Freedom for Atheists, Too","author":"***Dave","date":"Fri 23-Dec-16 11:10am","format":false,"excerpt":"I'm glad to see this 1998 US religious freedom law noted to include atheists and agnostics as well. 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