{"id":1406,"date":"2002-01-11T14:50:11","date_gmt":"2002-01-11T19:50:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/?p=1406"},"modified":"2002-01-11T14:50:11","modified_gmt":"2002-01-11T19:50:11","slug":"civil_discourse","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2002\/01\/11\/civil_discourse.html","title":{"rendered":"Civil discourse"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Now that the <i>New York Times<\/i> includes e-mail addresses for its op-ed writers, Michael Wolff shares some of the charming remarks forwarded to him by the teeming masses.<\/p>\n<p class=\"block\"><i>You deserve to be hit by the next terrorist strike. And after we&#8217;re done with the Taliban it&#8217;s time to start on clearing out the real terrorist threat to America . . . the Left.<br \/>\nToo bad Osama doesn&#8217;t have a suitcase nuke to finish off the rest of New York. Hitting the NY Times would be a good start and one of the best things to happen for the good of the country.<br \/>\nIf there is another terrorist strike I hope it hits your home, your city, your children&#8217;s school, your families airplane, and not mine. (It would also be fine with me if they&#8217;d wipe out Berkley.)<br \/><\/i><br \/>\nThe subject lines fly by: <i>Get over it . . . Pinko . . . I bet you loved Slick Willie . . . I guess having two skyscrapers fall on you isn&#8217;t enough . . . Bitter person . . . Watch out . . . You&#8217;re a jerk! . . . 89% approval rating, you lost, deal with it . . . Asshole!<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Ah.  I love America.  Even the most foul-mouthed yahoos can spew their venom without worrying (too much) about the FBI coming to their door.  At least, as long as they only threaten journalists, not the President.<\/p>\n<p>Wolff notes that this is not a Right vs Left thing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"block\">But it is not just right-wingers; you also have people who think they agree with you &#8212; though the right-wing goons out-number the left-wing weirdos by probably four to one. The vilifying subject lines that sweep by are, actually, interspersed with their opposite number: <i>Unmitigated bullshit . . . Incredible insights . . . You don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re talking about . . . You are a mind-reader . . . Brilliant! . . . Dung!<\/i><br \/>\nThe lefties certainly have their own tortured worldview. While the right wing&#8217;s fundamental analysis, or at least the analysis of right-wingers who send e-mails, is manhood-oriented &#8212; to be critical of the military is to be a homosexual, obviously &#8212; the left wing, as helpfully, continues to believe that all military-industrial-intelligence motivations are the product of conspiracies and, almost always, wants to send you further information (&#8220;I want to share with you some things that would give you the biggest story in the world. And it is all 100 percent true and I have the facts to prove it&#8221;).<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s a great article, and Wolff&#8217;s speculation about the causes behind such diatribes is interesting as well.<\/p>\n<p><small>(Via <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cursor.org\/toc.htm\">Cursor.org<\/a>)<\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Now that the New York Times includes e-mail addresses for its op-ed writers, Michael Wolff shares some of the charming remarks forwarded to him by the teeming masses. 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