{"id":14210,"date":"2009-03-15T23:04:00","date_gmt":"2009-03-16T05:04:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/?p=14210"},"modified":"2009-03-15T23:04:00","modified_gmt":"2009-03-16T05:04:00","slug":"the-amazingly-prescient-karl-marx","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2009\/03\/15\/the-amazingly-prescient-karl-marx.html","title":{"rendered":"The amazingly prescient Karl Marx!"},"content":{"rendered":"

And for his next trick, Marx will predict the Super Lotto Winner for next week!<\/em><\/p>\n

I’ve gotten a couple of emails recently (though apparently this has been circulating around for a while) touting this too-accurate-to-be-true Karl Marx quote:<\/p>\n

Owners of capital will stimulate working class to buy more and more of expensive goods, houses and technology, pushing them to take more and more expensive credits, until their their debt becomes unbearable. The unpaid debt will lead to bankruptcy of banks which will have to be nationalized and State will have to take the road which will eventually lead to communism.<\/p>\n

— Karl Marx (1867)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Apparently this quote is all over the Net, spurring furious commentary from those who either (a) think Marx was correct, and, see, here’s the proof, or (b) think Obama is leading us to socialism and communism.<\/p>\n

Isn’t that amazing?\u00a0 Isn’t that just too good to be true?<\/p>\n

Um … well, yes, it is.<\/p>\n

Snopes hasn’t weighed in on it officially (except discussion in forums<\/a>), but plenty of folks have done some searching of <\/a>Das Kapital<\/a> <\/em>(what Marx wrote in that year), and, well, haven’t found anything.<\/p>\n

Whether this is<\/a> a<\/a> hoax<\/a> from<\/a> the Right<\/a> or the Left<\/a>, it’s not a real Marx quote.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

And for his next trick, Marx will predict the Super Lotto Winner for next week! 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