{"id":14904,"date":"2009-05-31T07:07:36","date_gmt":"2009-05-31T13:07:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/?p=14904"},"modified":"2009-05-31T07:07:35","modified_gmt":"2009-05-31T13:07:35","slug":"i-think-ive-seen-this-thread-before","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2009\/05\/31\/i-think-ive-seen-this-thread-before.html","title":{"rendered":"I think I&#8217;ve seen this thread before &#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote dir=\"ltr\" style=\"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px\">\n<p>I\u2026I think it&#8217;s finally over. Our reactionary emotional response seems to have stopped it dead in its tracks. If I&#8217;m right, all we have to do now is smugly reiterate our half-formed thesis and\u2014oh, no! For the love of God, no! It&#8217;s thoughtfully mulling things over!<\/p>\n<p>Run! Run! It&#8217;s making reasonable, fact-based arguments!<\/p>\n<p>Quickly! Hide behind self-righteousness! The ad hominem rejoinders\u2014ready the ad hominem rejoinders! Watch out! Dodge the issue at hand! Question its character and keep moving haphazardly from one flawed point to the next!<\/p>\n<p>All together now! Put every bit of secondhand conjecture into it you&#8217;ve got!<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"> This, and the rest, from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theonion.com\/content\/opinion\/oh_no_its_making_well_reasoned\" target=\"_blank\">The Onion<\/a>, of course.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I\u2026I think it&#8217;s finally over. Our reactionary emotional response seems to have stopped it dead in its tracks. If I&#8217;m right, all we have to do now is smugly reiterate our half-formed thesis and\u2014oh, no! For the love of God, no! It&#8217;s thoughtfully mulling things over! Run! Run! It&#8217;s making reasonable, fact-based arguments! Quickly! Hide &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2009\/05\/31\/i-think-ive-seen-this-thread-before.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;I think I&#8217;ve seen this thread before &#8230;&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[3,30],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-14904","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-blogging","category-jokes"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":136223,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2018\/05\/05\/the-ad-hominem-president.html","url_meta":{"origin":14904,"position":0},"title":"The Ad Hominem President","author":"***Dave","date":"Sat 5-May-18 3:25pm","format":false,"excerpt":"It's long been obvious that, rhetorically, Trump is completely comfortable with attacking the character, background, or physical appearance of individuals he doesn't like, rather than opposing their positions with reasoned argument. He'd sooner call someone \"lazy\" or \"crooked\" or \"lying\" than actually addres what they have to say. It appears\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/unnamed-6.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":6051,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2004\/06\/02\/oh_come_now.html","url_meta":{"origin":14904,"position":1},"title":"Oh, come now","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 2-Jun-04 7:42am","format":false,"excerpt":"Neither John Kerry nor Dubya can claim to live like the \"common man\" or \"Joe Paycheck\" or anything like that. Which makes this particular bit of campaign ad hominem cheap...","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Politics &amp; Law&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Politics &amp; Law","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/politics-law"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":131350,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/08\/24\/trump-sandwich.html","url_meta":{"origin":14904,"position":2},"title":"Trump Sandwich","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 24-Aug-16 4:32pm","format":false,"excerpt":"I am generally against simple name-calling, ad hominem attacks on political figures. Unless they strike me as particularly clever and amusing. Like this. Originally shared by +Jim McCloskey: Seems like an unfulfilling and, ultimately, disappointing meal. \u00a0 View on Google+","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/14064231_10153740484471821_5467974361829085411_n.jpgimgmax%3D660.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":5453,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2004\/03\/09\/civility_and_st.html","url_meta":{"origin":14904,"position":3},"title":"Civility and staying on the issues","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 9-Mar-04 7:16am","format":false,"excerpt":"Thank heavens the Kerry campaign isn't stooping to the vilification, name-calling, and ad hominem attacks that those vile Bushies have. Thank heavens indeed. The East Bay for Kerry\/MoveOn House party...","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Politics &amp; Law&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Politics &amp; Law","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/politics-law"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":130427,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/04\/14\/bang-bang-crazy.html","url_meta":{"origin":14904,"position":4},"title":"Bang Bang Crazy","author":"***Dave","date":"Thu 14-Apr-16 11:52pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Jim Wright does great long-form blog entries at Stonekettle Station. Here he (once again) dives into the depths of pro-gun fervency, Twitter-style, and gets a predictable series of NRA talking points, ad hominem attacks, and other logical fallacies. It's fun reading, if you've taken your blood pressure medication. 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