{"id":15249,"date":"2009-07-19T17:39:23","date_gmt":"2009-07-19T23:39:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/?p=15249"},"modified":"2013-06-05T16:33:45","modified_gmt":"2013-06-05T22:33:45","slug":"more-on-amazons-orwellian-erasure-of-orwell","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2009\/07\/19\/more-on-amazons-orwellian-erasure-of-orwell.html","title":{"rendered":"More on Amazon’s Orwellian erasure of … Orwell"},"content":{"rendered":"

So much discussion and kerfuffle over Amazon deleting from Kindle accounts<\/a> (with refund) some books which they’d sold to people (copies of 1984<\/em> and Animal Farm<\/em>). People were rightly upset to discover that Amazon could just take away books that they “owned.”<\/p>\n

Amazon’s explained itself a slight bit further<\/a>, and is also changing how it handles such matters:<\/p>\n

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An Amazon spokesman, Drew Herdener, said in an e-mail message that the books were added to the Kindle store by a company that did not have rights to them, using a self-service function. \u201cWhen we were notified of this by the rights holder, we removed the illegal copies from our systems and from customers\u2019 devices, and refunded customers,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n

Amazon effectively acknowledged that the deletions were a bad idea. \u201cWe are changing our systems so that in the future we will not remove books from customers\u2019 devices in these circumstances,\u201d Mr. Herdener said.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

This doesn’t look to be the first case this has happened. Harry Potter and Ayn Rand books have been similarly disappeared.<\/p>\n

Interestingly, it’s not clear that Amazon was even allowed to do this, based on its own rules.<\/p>\n

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Amazon\u2019s published terms of service agreement<\/a> for the Kindle does not appear to give the company the right to delete purchases after they have been made. It says Amazon grants customers the right to keep a \u201cpermanent copy of the applicable digital content.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

And for those who take advantage of all those cool features the Kindle gives you?<\/p>\n

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Justin Gawronski, a 17-year-old from the Detroit area, was reading \u201c1984\u201d on his Kindle for a summer assignment and lost all his notes and annotations when the file vanished. \u201cThey didn\u2019t just take a book back, they stole my work,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Yeah, still an issue.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

So much discussion and kerfuffle over Amazon deleting from Kindle accounts (with refund) some books which they’d sold to people (copies of 1984 and Animal Farm). People were rightly upset to discover that Amazon could just take away books that they “owned.” Amazon’s explained itself a slight bit further, and is also changing how it handles … Continue reading “More on Amazon’s Orwellian erasure of … Orwell”<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[20,79,28,65],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-15249","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-hi-tech","category-media-intellectual-property","category-media-moguls","category-my-mobile-pda"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":43160,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/06\/20\/hoist-on-ones-own-drm-petard.html","url_meta":{"origin":15249,"position":0},"title":"Hoist on one's own DRM petard","author":"***Dave","date":"Fri 20-Jun-14 11:43am","format":false,"excerpt":"DRM is Digital Rights Management, i.e., the stuff that (unsuccessfully) keeps pirates from making illegal copies of digital books, music, games, etc. \u00a0Generrally speaking, DRM sucks. \u00a0Usually it just sucks for the consumer. \u00a0Occasionally it sucks for the folks who insist upon using it.Reshared post from +Doyce TestermanDRM Sucks: Big-Five\u2026","rel":"","context":"In "~PlusPosts"","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":22854,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/09\/28\/the-new-kindles-look-pretty-spiffy.html","url_meta":{"origin":15249,"position":1},"title":"The new Kindles look pretty spiffy","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 28-Sep-11 11:00am","format":false,"excerpt":"Okay, I've bought too many Kindles of late to justify running out and buying a new one (sigh). \u00a0But a few thoughts on the flurry of Kindles coming out. 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