{"id":160296,"date":"2023-12-28T18:03:12","date_gmt":"2023-12-29T01:03:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/?p=160296"},"modified":"2023-12-29T10:50:12","modified_gmt":"2023-12-29T17:50:12","slug":"111659687292389076","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2023\/12\/28\/111659687292389076.html","title":{"rendered":"Nikki Haley tries to dance around Slavery and the Civil War"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It makes little difference what Nikki Haley actually believes. She simply cannot be trusted. She has shown herself adept at saying things that sound relatively sane one sentence, and then making appeals to the MAGA Right with the next.<\/p>\n<p>She is either a fanatic herself, or (my belief) disingenuously willing to glibly court the fanatics.<\/p>\n<p>And she is <em>still<\/em> arguably the least-worst of the folk at-all-possibly-getting-the-GOP-nomination-for-President .<\/p>\n<p><a translate=\"no\" href=\"https:\/\/www.politico.com\/news\/2023\/12\/27\/haley-slavery-cause-of-civil-war-00133254\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\"><span class=\"invisible\">https:\/\/www.<\/span><span class=\"ellipsis\">politico.com\/news\/2023\/12\/27\/h<\/span><span class=\"invisible\">aley-slavery-cause-of-civil-war-00133254<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"vlp-link-container vlp-layout-dave1\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.politico.com\/news\/2023\/12\/27\/haley-slavery-cause-of-civil-war-00133254\" class=\"vlp-link\" title=\"Haley declines to say slavery was cause of Civil War\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\"><\/a><div class=\"vlp-layout-zone-side\"><div class=\"vlp-block-3 vlp-link-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cf-images.us-east-1.prod.boltdns.net\/v1\/static\/1155968404\/a26f3f66-8dba-4240-b2e5-97bf99f267dc\/bbf71d82-7065-45b2-9bf3-774d3e45249c\/1280x720\/match\/image.jpg\" style=\"max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px\" \/><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vlp-layout-zone-main\"><div class=\"vlp-block-0 vlp-link-title\">Haley declines to say slavery was cause of Civil War<\/div><div class=\"vlp-block-1 vlp-link-summary\">The former South Carolina governor instead said it was a dispute over how \u2018government was going to run.\u2019<\/div><div class=\"vlp-block-2 vlp-link-url\">www.politico.com\/news\/2023\/12\/27\/haley-slavery-cause-of-civil-war-00133254<\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<p><em><strong>UPDATE:<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>Aaaand &#8230; Nikki Haley backtracks, admits that, yeah, <strong>slavery was the cause of the Civil War<\/strong> &#8230; which will doubtless draw more criticism from both sides.<\/p>\n<p>She then deflects and says the person who asked the original question was a &#8220;Democratic plant&#8221; &#8230; which is altogether possible, but doesn&#8217;t address her inability to give the answer <em>she knows is true<\/em> in the first place.<\/p>\n<p>So Haley is willing to tell the truth about the Civil War when <em>forced<\/em> to, but not when she <em>isn&#8217;t<\/em>. Got it.<\/p>\n<p><a translate=\"no\" href=\"https:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/anafaguy\/2023\/12\/28\/nikki-haley-backtracks-on-civil-war-comments-says-of-course-slavery-was-the-cause\/?sh=41062d6c622a\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\"><span class=\"invisible\">https:\/\/www.<\/span><span class=\"ellipsis\">forbes.com\/sites\/anafaguy\/2023<\/span><span class=\"invisible\">\/12\/28\/nikki-haley-backtracks-on-civil-war-comments-says-of-course-slavery-was-the-cause\/?sh=41062d6c622a<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"vlp-link-container vlp-layout-dave1\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/anafaguy\/2023\/12\/28\/nikki-haley-backtracks-on-civil-war-comments-says-of-course-slavery-was-the-cause\/?sh=41062d6c622a\" class=\"vlp-link\" title=\"Nikki Haley Backtracks On Civil War Comments, Says \u2018Of Course\u2019 Slavery Was The Cause\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\"><\/a><div class=\"vlp-layout-zone-side\"><div class=\"vlp-block-3 vlp-link-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/imageio.forbes.com\/specials-images\/imageserve\/658da5dba577d28ebdfc66e5\/0x0.jpg?format=jpg&amp;height=900&amp;width=1600&amp;fit=bounds\" style=\"max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px\" \/><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vlp-layout-zone-main\"><div class=\"vlp-block-0 vlp-link-title\">Nikki Haley Backtracks On Civil War Comments, Says \u2018Of Course\u2019 Slavery Was The Cause<\/div><div class=\"vlp-block-1 vlp-link-summary\">In a town hall Wednesday, presidential contender Nikki Haley omitted slavery as a cause of the Civil War.<\/div><div class=\"vlp-block-2 vlp-link-url\">www.forbes.com\/sites\/anafaguy\/2023\/12\/28\/nikki-haley-backtracks-on-civil-war-comments-says-of-course-slavery-was-the-cause\/<\/div><\/div><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Because the only acceptable answer in the GOP is that the Civil War was about Big Government!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"none","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"both","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":301,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[2313,2136,108,380,740],"tags":[125],"class_list":["post-160296","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-toot","category-elections-2024","category-history","category-nationalism-exceptionalism","category-race-racism","tag-gop"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":132098,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/11\/23\/trump-plays-the-diversity-card-in-nominations.html","url_meta":{"origin":160296,"position":0},"title":"Trump plays the &quot;diversity&quot; card in nominations","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 23-Nov-16 1:29pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Which I'm sure will engender even more Thanksgiving Dinner table discussions in some houses this week.For UN Ambassador, Trump has tapped (even before appointing a Secretary of State) Nikki Haley, the Governor of South Carolina. 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