{"id":160328,"date":"2024-01-02T00:16:17","date_gmt":"2024-01-02T07:16:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/?p=160328"},"modified":"2024-01-02T00:16:17","modified_gmt":"2024-01-02T07:16:17","slug":"111679703801142136","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2024\/01\/02\/111679703801142136.html","title":{"rendered":"The Pro-Active Pardon"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Is it must me, or is there something deeply unserious about both Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis pledging they would, of course, pardon Trump of any federal convictions. Regardless of any further evidence. Regardless of what judges and\/or juries decide.<\/p>\n

Sure, DeSantis insists it’s just akin of Ford pardoning Nixon to help “re-unite a divided country.” Except, pardoning Trump wouldn’t<\/em> reunite anything. For Trump opponents it would be seen as complete and utter politics. For Trump, and his mob, it would be taken as an exoneration. And Trump would be stirring up the next insurrection, unabashed and emboldened.<\/p>\n

Ford could barely get away with pardoning Nixon — and, in fact, it sank his chances of a second term — because he was respected and liked going into the job, and wasn’t seen as being part of Nixon’s corrupt coterie. He was deeply criticized for poor judgment in pardoning Nixon, but it wasn’t seen as as partisan corruption. That would hardly apply to either Haley or DeSantis doing the same thing for Trump — especially, in the circumstances they describe, he would already be convicted,<\/em> something Nixon never was.<\/p>\n

Do I really think that Haley and DeSantis think Trump shouldn’t be punished for what he did, or that they are seeking some sort of cleansing national unity? Of course not. At the most obvious, they are hoping\u00a0 to garner presidential votes by appealing to the Trumpist mob. More likely, they simply want to tee themselves up as being part of the MAGA movement that, however the election in November turns out, will propel them to future power.<\/p>\n

https:\/\/www.<\/span>washingtonpost.com\/politics\/20<\/span>23\/12\/31\/desantis-haley-pledge-pardon-trump-if-hes-convicted\/<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Haley and DeSantis belittle the rule of law by preemptively declaring they would pardon Trump were they elected President<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"none","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"both","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":301,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[2313,715,2136,358,1071],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-160328","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-toot","category-crime-punishment","category-elections-2024","category-poor-citizenship","category-trump"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":136654,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2018\/05\/31\/and-you-get-a-pardon-and-you-get-a-pardon.html","url_meta":{"origin":160328,"position":0},"title":"“And YOU get a pardon, and YOU get a pardon…”","author":"***Dave","date":"Thu 31-May-18 10:39am","format":false,"excerpt":"Trump loves pardoning. 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