{"id":16165,"date":"2009-11-09T17:37:21","date_gmt":"2009-11-10T00:37:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/?p=16165"},"modified":"2009-11-09T17:37:21","modified_gmt":"2009-11-10T00:37:21","slug":"for-all-those-who-perhaps-thought-that-getting-nearly-everything-they-wanted-would-appease-the-right","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2009\/11\/09\/for-all-those-who-perhaps-thought-that-getting-nearly-everything-they-wanted-would-appease-the-right.html","title":{"rendered":"For all those who perhaps thought that getting nearly everything they wanted would appease the Right &#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&#8230; just scope out the lede (my emphasis) here:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.onenewsnow.com\/Politics\/Default.aspx?id=759448\">Conservatives condemn passage of House health bill (OneNewsNow.com)<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Monstrous and a defiance of the will of the American people <\/strong>&#8211; that&#8217;s how one pro-family group is describing the health bill that House Democrats pushed through Saturday night by a vote of 220 to 215.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Not quite sure which polls said pro-family group is reading, but getting national health care reform still seems to have the majority of Americans squarely behind it.<\/p>\n<p>What&#8217;s &#8220;monstrous&#8221; is how watered-down this proposal actually is &#8212; and how it&#8217;s still being fought, tooth and claw, by the forces in favor of the <em>status quo<\/em>.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The President of Concerned Women\u00a0for America, Wendy Wright, says\u00a0the bill will ration care and punish citizens who don&#8217;t have government-mandated insurance.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>We already have rationed care.\u00a0 Insurance companies ration care &#8212; and then find ways to deny it to you when you actually qualify for it.<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s some truth to the claim that folks will be required to have insurance.\u00a0 If this were a national health care system, nobody would give it a second thought that everyone was covered and, in fact, it was being paid for by taxes.\u00a0 Mandating the purchase (for purposes of evening out the risk pool) from a private company is the next best thing &#8212; and wouldn&#8217;t be necessary if the Right hadn&#8217;t kiboshed a single-payer system.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Wright\u00a0declares\u00a0&#8220;this montrous bill&#8221;\u00a0will erode the best health care system in the world.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It won&#8217;t, because it isn&#8217;t (and even to the extent it is, is inaccessible by folks who can&#8217;t afford adequate insurance).<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>According to Wright, &#8220;In exchange for insurance, we&#8217;ll lose access to proper health care. We&#8217;ll lose health care providers who will leave the profession.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Um &#8230; why would they leave the profession?\u00a0 And if you don&#8217;t have access to proper health care already (as millions don&#8217;t), getting some insurance might actually be a good thing.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>She says the bill would &#8220;create multiple bureaucracies that will control Americans&#8217; health care, penalize Americans for not buying a product, fine Americans if a government agent decides their health care plan is not &#8216;government approved&#8217; and may force Americans to buy government mandated insurance that funds objectionable procedures.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Wright notes that although an amendment passed to bar federal funding of abortion, Democrat leaders refused to guarantee that it will\u00a0be in the final bill.\u00a0 According to Wright, &#8220;the vote on the amendment may have been a ruse to gain pro-life Democrats vote on the bill.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Yes, you see, we cover all that in Government 101 &#8212; the House passes bills, but the Senate passes them, too.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway note that you can never give enough inches with these people &#8212; knuckle under in the House and, sure as shooting, you&#8217;ll be accused of planning to betray them in the Senate or in reconciliation.<\/p>\n<p>I also note: if you have moral objections to a service offered by your insurance, the obvious solution is <em>not to use that service<\/em>.\u00a0 But, again, the Right isn&#8217;t happy unless <em>nobody <\/em>can do it.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Meanwhile, House Republican leader, John Boehner, also issued a statement condemning the bill.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Well, freaking duh.\u00a0 He&#8217;s been an opponent of it from the get-go, and voted against it.\u00a0 Of course he&#8217;s going to condemn it, even if he weren&#8217;t a jerk who&#8217;s more interested in scoring electoral points than in serving the public.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>He said &#8220;Americans want a common-sense approach to health care reform, not Speaker Nancy Pelosi&#8217;s 2,032-page government takeover that increases costs, adds to our skyrocketing debt, destroys jobs with tax hikes and new mandates, and cuts seniors&#8217; Medicare benefits.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&#8220;It also curdles milk, gives you dandruff, causes random spleen explosions, and will bring about the end of the world in 2012.&#8221;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Boehner noted that Republicans have offered an alternative health care reform package which offers lower costs and expands access to quality care-without adding to the &#8220;crushing debt Washington has placed on our children and grandchildren.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Yes, it costs much less, bumps insurance company profits through the roof, and doesn&#8217;t cover any more people.\u00a0 Brilliant alternative, sir!<\/p>\n<p>Rrg.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8230; just scope out the lede (my emphasis) here: Conservatives condemn passage of House health bill (OneNewsNow.com) Monstrous and a defiance of the will of the American people &#8211; that&#8217;s how one pro-family group is describing the health bill that House Democrats pushed through Saturday night by a vote of 220 to 215. Not quite &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2009\/11\/09\/for-all-those-who-perhaps-thought-that-getting-nearly-everything-they-wanted-would-appease-the-right.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;For all those who perhaps thought that getting nearly everything they wanted would appease the Right &#8230;&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[9],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-16165","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics-law"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":136797,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2018\/06\/16\/on-monstrous-motivations.html","url_meta":{"origin":16165,"position":0},"title":"On Monstrous Motivations","author":"***Dave","date":"Sat 16-Jun-18 11:58am","format":false,"excerpt":"See! He's not unknowingly pursuing some horrible policy in a callous and unfeeling and brutal fashion because he's a callous and unfeeling and brutal monster. 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This is a great plan that is a repeal & replace of ObamaCare. Make no mistake about it.' [1]Now, as he tries to badger the Senate into getting something\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":133878,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2017\/07\/17\/is-the-senate-gop-health-insurance-bill-dead.html","url_meta":{"origin":16165,"position":4},"title":"Is the Senate GOP health insurance bill dead?","author":"***Dave","date":"Mon 17-Jul-17 7:18pm","format":false,"excerpt":"It ain't over 'til it's either actually pulled from consideration, or actually voted down.Too much of this smacks of political chicken. \"Give me a little bit here to show the voters at home, and you can get my vote. Otherwise ...\" Thus the bone (well bucket o' money) thrown to\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":31550,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/11\/30\/remember-when-religion-was-an-obligation-not-an-excuse.html","url_meta":{"origin":16165,"position":5},"title":"Remember when religion was an obligation, not an excuse?","author":"***Dave","date":"Fri 30-Nov-12 6:05pm","format":false,"excerpt":"It seems instead, these days, that religious or moral beliefs are a way to avoid doing things -- like provide contraceptive care, or, in this Michigan state bill, pretty much provide any service, medication, or care to whomever one wants, as long as you're willing to assert a \"moral conviction\"\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16165","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=16165"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16165\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=16165"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=16165"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=16165"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}