{"id":1643,"date":"2001-12-01T17:06:02","date_gmt":"2001-12-01T22:06:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/?p=1643"},"modified":"2001-12-01T17:06:02","modified_gmt":"2001-12-01T22:06:02","slug":"by_god_they_sho","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2001\/12\/01\/by_god_they_sho.html","title":{"rendered":"By God, they should hang him from the highest &#8230; er &#8230; tree &#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The leader of the Missouri Synod of the Lutheran church is in hot water over &#8212; gasp! &#8212; <a href=\"http:\/\/www0.mercurycenter.com\/breaking\/docs\/021397.htm\">praying with others<\/a> at an ecumenical prayer meeting at Ground Zero, and also for supporting someone else guilty of this heinous crime.  I mean, Good Lord, there were other Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus and Sikhs present!<\/p>\n<p class=\"block\">The Rev. David Oberdieck, pastor of Trinity Lutheran Church in Lebanon, Mo., is one of those who filed charges. He argued such ecumenical events promote syncretism &#8212; the mingling of Christianity with other religions in the belief they are all equal. &#8220;St. Paul said that we should flee idolatry but (Benke) did not flee idolatry,&#8221; Oberdieck said. Benke &#8220;participated in idolatry, by participating with non-Christians,&#8221; Oberdieck said.<br \/>\nThe other pastor who brought the charges, the Rev. Stephen Bohler, pastor of Our Savior Lutheran Church in Crookston, Minn., said the reason for the meetings was not the point. &#8220;Our church position is that the word of God forbids us from doing this,&#8221; he said. &#8220;The word of God is not set aside because of emergencies.&#8221; <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Jesus wept.&#8221; &#8212; John 11:35<\/p>\n<p><small>(Via <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jillmatrix.com\/2001_11_01_archive.html#7511102\">JillMatrix<\/a>)<\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The leader of the Missouri Synod of the Lutheran church is in hot water over &#8212; gasp! &#8212; praying with others at an ecumenical prayer meeting at Ground Zero, and&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[27],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1643","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-religion"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":2364,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2002\/07\/06\/nobody_expects.html","url_meta":{"origin":1643,"position":0},"title":"Nobody expects &#8230; the Lutheran Inquisition!","author":"***Dave","date":"Sat 6-Jul-02 4:55pm","format":false,"excerpt":"The Lutheran Church Missouri Synod is suspending the nefarious Rev. 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