{"id":1656,"date":"2001-11-29T11:37:36","date_gmt":"2001-11-29T16:37:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/?p=1656"},"modified":"2001-11-29T11:37:36","modified_gmt":"2001-11-29T16:37:36","slug":"the_terror_koan","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2001\/11\/29\/the_terror_koan.html","title":{"rendered":"The Terror Koan"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>An interesting piece at BeliefNet on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/story\/89\/story_8930.html\">Buddhism and the morality of fighting against terrorism<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"block\">&#8220;You are entering the koan of &#8216;Stop Harm&#8217;,&#8221; observes Myotai Treace Sensei, abbot of the Zen Center of New York, referring to the insoluble meditation riddles Zen masters give their students. &#8220;&#8216;Don&#8217;t do harm, but stop harm.&#8221; <br \/>\nZen Samurai. Dharma warriors of Tibet. Wrathful Buddhas. These represent powerful Buddhist traditions that acknowledge violence as a tool of the Dharma. Followers of these paths take a series of <i>bodhisattva <\/i>vows, voluntary oaths to relieve the suffering of all beings. &#8220;One of those vows is that, basically, you have to kill if it will be of benefit to others,&#8221; explains Nicholas Ribush, a former monk who heads the Lama Yeshe Archive. &#8220;If you don&#8217;t, you are breaking your vows.&#8221; <br \/>\nBut to be justified, the teachers agree, the violence must be highly targeted and taken to prevent further violence, not to exact revenge. &#8220;When necessary, kill, but only out of wisdom and compassion,&#8221; counsels John Daido Loori Roshi, Abbot of Zen Mountain Monastery. &#8220;We need to see each situation in terms of time, place and position of the individual. What&#8217;s okay at one place may not be acceptable in another.&#8221;<br \/>\n[&#8230;] Scholar Andrew Olendzki, Ph.D., of the Barre Center for Buddhist studies cites numerous stories to illustrate the point. In one past life, the Buddha is said to have killed a man who was about to murder 500 others. In another, the Buddha said that if, in order to save a choking boy, he had to cause injury he would do so. &#8220;My sense is the Buddha accepted that a certain amount of violence is built into the world situations,&#8221; Olendzki says. <\/p>\n<p>Seems like an even-handed way of looking at the problem.  It lends itself to abuse, of course, since it relies in enlightenment and self-judgment &#8230; but that&#8217;s much of what Buddhism is about, and that&#8217;s not a bad thing.<\/p>\n<p><small>(Via <a href=\"http:\/\/www.andrewsullivan.com\">Andrew Sullivan<\/a>)<\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>An interesting piece at BeliefNet on Buddhism and the morality of fighting against terrorism. &#8220;You are entering the koan of &#8216;Stop Harm&#8217;,&#8221; observes Myotai Treace Sensei, abbot of the Zen&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[27],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1656","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-religion"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":4017,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2003\/02\/26\/promise.html","url_meta":{"origin":1656,"position":0},"title":"Promise?","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 26-Feb-03 5:39pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Saddam vows death before exile. 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