{"id":1704,"date":"2001-11-21T16:42:17","date_gmt":"2001-11-21T21:42:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/?p=1704"},"modified":"2001-11-21T16:42:17","modified_gmt":"2001-11-21T21:42:17","slug":"13_12_11_10","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2001\/11\/21\/13_12_11_10.html","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;&#8230; 13, 12, 11, 10 &#8230;&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Continuing the review of Marvel&#8217;s self-titled Greatest 25 (based on a readership poll).<\/p>\n<li><i>13.  The Incredible Hulk #1, May &#8217;62 &#8211; &#8220;The Coming of the Hulk&#8221;<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"indent\">The Hulk was a popular character, but his original comic only lasted six issue.  Still, he&#8217;s become such an iconic character (sharing top billing in the classic Marvel pantheon with Captain America and Spider-man) that the various characters &#8212; Hulk, his bookish alter-ego Robert Bruce Banner, &#8220;Thunderbolt&#8221; Ross, Betty Ross, even Rick Jones &#8212; introduced in this first issue are (even when dead) still key members of the Marvel population.  Lee and Kirby did another fine job with crafting this Jekyll\/Hyde character, and the battle of the inner beast against the power of will and intellect still reverberates almost forty years later &#8212; and have produced multiple cartoons, a popular television show, and, coming soon to a theater near you, a major motion picture.<\/p>\n<li><i>12.  Ultimate X-Men #1, August &#8217;00 &#8211; &#8220;The Tomorrow People&#8221;<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"indent\">As a student of history, I&#8217;m leery of anything so recent being voted on as an all-time best.  Recent memory &#8212; and current taste &#8212; rarely equate to lasting, classic value.  When, in 2000, Marvel announced its &#8220;Ultimate&#8221; line &#8212; a series of comics based on Marvel&#8217;s popular titles, but rewritten, reforged, purged of all that annoying continuity that was choking the X-line to death (and, some thought, driving off readers) &#8212; I was dubious.  It sounded like a gimmick.  And even though some very good talent was lined up &#8230; well, I really didn&#8217;t need to add any more comics to my stack.  Okay, so all that aside, I may have made a mistake.  This story &#8212; written by Mark Millar, drawn by Adam Kubert and Art Thibert, is crisp, fresh, lean, and quite enjoyable.  I don&#8217;t know that I&#8217;ll add this to my pull list (I&#8217;m still kind of leery of the non-continuity sort of elseworld that the Ultimate line represents), but it&#8217;s good stuff nonetheless.  The question is &#8212; in forty years, will anyone still be voting for this as one of the all-time greats (assuming anyone is still buying comics as we know them in forty years)?  I don&#8217;t know.  Somehow &#8230; I doubt it.<\/p>\n<li><i>11.  Daredevil #227, August &#8217;90 &#8211; &#8220;Apocalypse&#8221;<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"indent\">This came during Frank Miller&#8217;s second run on the title, when I had dropped <i>Daredevil<\/i>, never to pick it up as a regular title again (the incessently dark noir tone finally got to me).  That having been said, this is an effective, well-crafted story showing how a betrayal lets the Kingpin slowly destroy Matt Murdock, Daredevil&#8217;s secret identity, by slowly, inexorably destroying bits and pieces of Murdock&#8217;s life.  Art by David Mazzucchelli is almost as good as Miller&#8217;s own.  For those who follow DD, I could see how this tale would rank in nearly the Top 10 (though I&#8217;d probably put one of Miller&#8217;s Elektra issues in its place).<\/p>\n<li><i>10.  Wolverine #75, November &#8217;93 &#8211; &#8220;Nightmares Persist&#8221;<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"indent\">This is the follow-up to the previously the 16th-ranked issue, <i>X-Men <\/i>#25.  Wolvie, his adamantium ripped out by Magneto, faces death of both body and mind.  In some ways, this issue is worlds better than the claustrophic, continuity-cluttered mess that the <i>X-Men <\/i>issue was.  It&#8217;s about human emotion, loyalty, brotherhood &#8212; and, ultimately, it represented a stripping-away from Wolverine of the baggage that being an X-Man entailed.  By the close of the double-sized issue, Wolvie is leaving the Mansion, cutting his ties, and going off to discover what his life really now means.  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