{"id":1778,"date":"2002-04-30T22:23:09","date_gmt":"2002-05-01T03:23:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/?p=1778"},"modified":"2002-04-30T22:23:09","modified_gmt":"2002-05-01T03:23:09","slug":"the_list_is_lif","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2002\/04\/30\/the_list_is_lif.html","title":{"rendered":"The List is Life"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I own two e-mail lists, FYA (For Your Amusement), a joke list sent out at wildly irregular intervals, and WIST (Wish I&#8217;d Said That), a quote-a-day list from my quotations database.<\/p>\n<p>I started FYA two, three, four years back when I realized that I was sending out jokes to a larger and larger group of friends and family, and thought it would be a lot more convenient to let a listserv company handle it.  At the time, there were several free ones.  Now there&#8217;s pretty much just one, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.topica.com\">Topica<\/a>, who I&#8217;ve been using for both FYA and WIST.<\/p>\n<p>Now, Topica does a pretty good job.  It has good configuration options.  It&#8217;s pretty stable.  No complaints.  Except that, in order to keep their business model going, they&#8217;ve started inserting ads at the top and bottom of their &#8220;free&#8221; lists.<\/p>\n<p>I have no philosophical problem with this.  It&#8217;s their business, their model, and they aren&#8217;t charging me diddly-squat.<\/p>\n<p>But I have an aesthetic problem.  The ads are ugly.  They detract.  They clash and intrude and just look plain awful.  If I didn&#8217;t have any other choice, I&#8217;d put up with it.  It <i>is <\/i>free, after all.<\/p>\n<p>So it turns out that I do have a choice.  My host account with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.hostmatters.com\">Hosting Matters <\/a>gives me two mailing lists through MailMan, which interface I&#8217;m already familiar with through another list I&#8217;m a manager for.  <\/p>\n<p>So I transferred everything over tonight.  Woo-hoo.<\/p>\n<p>But that&#8217;s not what I&#8217;m here to blog about.  <\/p>\n<p>I mentioned I started FYA to send jokes to family and friends.<\/p>\n<p>There are 39 addresses there.  I recognize about half of them.<\/p>\n<p>WIST has 58 members.  I recognize only a handful.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;But, Dave,&#8221; you say, &#8220;you run a blog.  You&#8217;re used to broadcasting your innermost thoughts out to a bunch of strangers.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>But that&#8217;s anonymous.  Only if they choose to comment do they become real people.  And then they&#8217;re real people.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s just interesting to actually see a list of people, strangers, who have an interest in content I choose to provide.  Vaguely disturbing, vaguely pleasing, but definitely &#8230; interesting.<\/p>\n<p>And if you want to, you are of course welcome to subscribe to either <a href=\"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/mailman\/listinfo\/fya_hill-kleerup.org\">FYA <\/a>or <a href=\"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/mailman\/listinfo\/wist_hill-kleerup.org\">WIST<\/a>.  Or both, if you&#8217;re particularly daring.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I own two e-mail lists, FYA (For Your Amusement), a joke list sent out at wildly irregular intervals, and WIST (Wish I&#8217;d Said That), a quote-a-day list from my quotations&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[3,33],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1778","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-blogging","category-wist"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":1913,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2002\/04\/09\/poll_results.html","url_meta":{"origin":1778,"position":0},"title":"Poll results","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 9-Apr-02 7:44pm","format":false,"excerpt":"The most recent poll was on \"Dave's long editorials on stuff\" (N=20) 60% - Interesting break from the personality tests. 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