{"id":2338,"date":"2002-07-10T14:45:37","date_gmt":"2002-07-10T19:45:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/?p=2338"},"modified":"2002-07-10T14:45:37","modified_gmt":"2002-07-10T19:45:37","slug":"screw_em_if_the","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2002\/07\/10\/screw_em_if_the.html","title":{"rendered":"Screw &#8217;em if they can&#8217;t take a joke"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s one thing to overreact to someone doing something stupid like joking about having a bomb or a gun while boarding a passenger jet.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s quite another thing to try to turn petty irritation into retribution, then dress it all up as a security concern, which is what happened to an America West passenger who jokingly asked flight attendants if the pilots were sober &#8212; this a week after two America West pilots were arrested and fired for flying drunk.<\/p>\n<p>The woman who made the joke was <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cnn.com\/2002\/US\/07\/09\/airlines.joke.reut\/index.html\">yanked from the plane<\/a>.  She was later put on a different flight.<\/p>\n<p class=\"block\">[AW spokesperson] Nowack said the crew decided to take the woman off the aircraft after determining that her remarks constituted a potential security problem. <br \/>\n&#8220;While this passenger may have been joking it is difficult to determine if someone is joking or serious. We take any comment regarding safety seriously,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<p><i>And how the frell were this woman&#8217;s remarks a security problem?<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Not only is this crappy customer service, but it makes (in Instapundit&#8217;s words) &#8220;a mockery of security and anti-terrorism.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Jerks.<\/p>\n<p>(I&#8217;ve sent a note to America West asking why I should spend my travel dollars with a company that would engage in this sort of abuse.  I&#8217;ll be curious to see what sort of form letter I get back.)<\/p>\n<p><u>UPDATE<\/u>:  <a href=\"http:\/\/www.blogatelle.com\/archives\/000876.php#000876\">Blogatelle <\/a>takes it upon herself to help AW figure out when people are joking.  With visuals.<\/p>\n<p><small>(Via <a href=\"http:\/\/www.instapundit.com\/archives\/002286.php#002286\">Instapundit<\/a>)<\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s one thing to overreact to someone doing something stupid like joking about having a bomb or a gun while boarding a passenger jet. 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