{"id":23602,"date":"2011-11-10T09:35:43","date_gmt":"2011-11-10T16:35:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/11\/10\/dumping-the-dead.html"},"modified":"2011-11-10T21:22:54","modified_gmt":"2011-11-11T04:22:54","slug":"dumping-the-dead","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/11\/10\/dumping-the-dead.html","title":{"rendered":"Dumping the Dead"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A few thought, as I digest what is, on the face of it, an appalling story.<\/p>\n<p>1. We&#39;re talking about <i>stray parts<\/i>, not actual bodies.  While that may not make anyone feel better, it&#39;s a good reminder that battlefields end up with a lot of stray, unidentified, or too-late-identified parts. Dying in battle (or from IEDs) is not all graceful slo-mo collapsing to the ground.<\/p>\n<p>2. This was a Bush era activity. I don&#39;t have any reason to specifically blame his administration, but I have <i>zero<\/i> doubt that if this had been going on for the last two years, the Right would be up in arms about how Obama&#39;s supposed anti-military agenda was directly responsible for this kind of disrespect.<\/p>\n<p>3. Trying to be as objective as possible, is it that huge a deal?  The pomp and circumstance of the actual burial ceremony (with whatever identified remains are there), the engagement of the family, the respect shown at the memorial, that&#39;s about as much as any mortal can expect. (Or, to take it to another degree, do folks expect they would dig up all the blood-soaked earth around the fallen body, too?)  When I die, I don&#39;t expect I&#39;m going to be all that worried about whether a few bits of me ended up cremated in a landfill.<\/p>\n<p>4. Viz #3, I realize some folks do care very much about this, particularly the survivors, and so some heads should definitely roll (but not be buried in a landfill). #ddtb<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n<p style='margin-bottom:5px;'><strong>Embedded Link<\/strong><\/p>\n<div style='height:120px;width:120px;overflow:hidden;float:left;margin-top:0px;padding-top:0px;margin-right:10px;vertical-align:top;text-align:center;clear:both;'>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img style='max-width:none;' src='http:\/\/images0-focus-opensocial.googleusercontent.com\/gadgets\/proxy?container=focus&#038;gadget=a&#038;resize_h=100&#038;url=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.wpdigital.net%2Frf%2Fimage_296w%2F2010-2019%2FWashingtonPost%2F2011%2F11%2F09%2FNational-Security%2FVideos%2F11092011-28v%2F11092011-28v.jpg' border='0' \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href='http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/national\/national-security\/remains-of-war-dead-dumped-in-landfill\/2011\/11\/09\/gIQAz7dM6M_story.html?hpid=z1'>Remains of war dead dumped in landfill<\/a><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tThe Dover mortuary engaged in the practice from 2003 until 2008, according to Air Force officials. The manner of disposal was typically withheld from the relatives of fallen service members.\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A few thought, as I digest what is, on the face of it, an appalling story. 1. We&#39;re talking about stray parts, not actual bodies. While that may not make anyone feel better, it&#39;s a good reminder that battlefields end up with a lot of stray, unidentified, or too-late-identified parts. Dying in battle (or from &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/11\/10\/dumping-the-dead.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Dumping the Dead&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,10,27],"tags":[107],"class_list":["post-23602","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-geopolitical-brouhaha","category-religion","tag-ddtb"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":29941,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/08\/24\/stray-books.html","url_meta":{"origin":23602,"position":0},"title":"Stray Books","author":"***Dave","date":"Fri 24-Aug-12 9:31am","format":false,"excerpt":"Sounds like a goal, not a problem. 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