{"id":23709,"date":"2011-11-14T11:44:27","date_gmt":"2011-11-14T18:44:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/11\/14\/remarkably-people-who-are-mistrusted-and-spied-on-tend-to-react-angrily.html"},"modified":"2011-11-14T13:41:45","modified_gmt":"2011-11-14T20:41:45","slug":"remarkably-people-who-are-mistrusted-and-spied-on-tend-to-react-angrily","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/11\/14\/remarkably-people-who-are-mistrusted-and-spied-on-tend-to-react-angrily.html","title":{"rendered":"Remarkably, people who are mistrusted and spied on tend to react angrily"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I imagine if I were part of a community subject to random spying and accusations of disloyalty by the authorities &#8230; I&#39;d be progressively less and less cooperative with the authorities.  Wouldn&#39;t you? <\/p>\n<p>I do understand the interest in watching for dangerous extremism in various elements of society.  But the NYPD &#8212; and the FBI, and most law enforcement &#8212; have handled this in in a remarkably ham-handed and destructive fashion, creating a self-fulfilling prophecy of secretive, uncommunicative Muslims who don&#39;t report on possible problems.  The only question in my mind is whether that was intentional or not. #ddtb<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n<p style='margin-bottom:5px;'><strong>Embedded Link<\/strong><\/p>\n<div style='height:120px;width:120px;overflow:hidden;float:left;margin-top:0px;padding-top:0px;margin-right:10px;vertical-align:top;text-align:center;clear:both;'>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img style='max-width:none;' src='http:\/\/images0-focus-opensocial.googleusercontent.com\/gadgets\/proxy?container=focus&#038;gadget=a&#038;resize_h=100&#038;url=http%3A%2F%2Fextras.mnginteractive.com%2Flive%2Fmedia%2Fsite333%2F2011%2F1114%2F20111114__USNYPDIntelligence%7E4_VIEWER.jpg' border='0' \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href='http:\/\/www.denverpost.com\/breakingnews\/ci_19331252'>Angry over spying, Muslims say: &#39;Don&#39;t call NYPD&#39; &#8211; The Denver Post<\/a><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tNEW YORK\u2014Fed up with a decade of police spying on the innocuous details of the daily lives of Muslims, activists in New York are discouraging people from going directly to the police with their concer&#8230;\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I imagine if I were part of a community subject to random spying and accusations of disloyalty by the authorities &#8230; I&#39;d be progressively less and less cooperative with the authorities. Wouldn&#39;t you? I do understand the interest in watching for dangerous extremism in various elements of society. But the NYPD &#8212; and the FBI, &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/11\/14\/remarkably-people-who-are-mistrusted-and-spied-on-tend-to-react-angrily.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Remarkably, people who are mistrusted and spied on tend to react angrily&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,17],"tags":[107],"class_list":["post-23709","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-homeland-security","tag-ddtb"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":153528,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2021\/03\/07\/still-chatty-after-all-these-years.html","url_meta":{"origin":23709,"position":0},"title":"Still chatty after all these years","author":"***Dave","date":"Sun 7-Mar-21 12:30am","format":false,"excerpt":"The Stupid Evil Podcast is ... well, it was fun.","rel":"","context":"In &quot;DDtB-SEB Podcasts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"DDtB-SEB Podcasts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/podcasts\/ddtb-seb-podcasts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/still-chatty-after-all-these-years-f7WYuWsxxqQ.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/still-chatty-after-all-these-years-f7WYuWsxxqQ.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/still-chatty-after-all-these-years-f7WYuWsxxqQ.jpg?resize=525%2C300&ssl=1 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/still-chatty-after-all-these-years-f7WYuWsxxqQ.jpg?resize=700%2C400&ssl=1 2x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/still-chatty-after-all-these-years-f7WYuWsxxqQ.jpg?resize=1050%2C600&ssl=1 3x"},"classes":[]},{"id":136275,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2018\/05\/06\/and-lo-there-shall-come-another-seb-podcast.html","url_meta":{"origin":23709,"position":1},"title":"And, lo, there shall come another SEB Podcast!","author":"***Dave","date":"Sun 6-May-18 2:56pm","format":false,"excerpt":"It's been an astonishing three years since +Les Jenkins and I did one of his Stupid Evil Bastard podcasts (the biggest takeaway from which was that it had been three years since we previously did it, and that was clearly way, way too long). 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