{"id":23752,"date":"2011-11-15T10:13:48","date_gmt":"2011-11-15T17:13:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/11\/15\/religious-freedom-doesnt-mean-you-get-paid-for-following-your-religion.html"},"modified":"2014-11-06T07:28:18","modified_gmt":"2014-11-06T14:28:18","slug":"religious-freedom-doesnt-mean-you-get-paid-for-following-your-religion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/11\/15\/religious-freedom-doesnt-mean-you-get-paid-for-following-your-religion.html","title":{"rendered":"Religious Freedom doesn&#39;t mean you get paid for following your religion"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>No, really.If you blink reading this story, you almost miss it amongst the wailing and gnashing of teeth about how the state is oppressing the Church, that &quot;religious protection&quot; is at risk, and how &quot;faith-based agencies&quot; are being prevented from exercising their faith.What&#39;s at stake here is that the state was paying the Church, under contract, for adoption service.s  With that contractual money came contractual rules &#8212; one of which is that folks receiving adoption and foster care services money not be allowed to discriminate against same-sex couples.The answer is clear and obvious: if you&#39;re not willing to abide by the rules, don&#39;t take the money. If it&#39;s a faith-based priority, then you are welcome to do what you want &#8230; with private funds and donations.  But expecting the state to fund you with no strings attached is a mook&#39;s game &#8212; and a great example of why the separation of church and state is such a great idea for the state and churches.Whining that it&#39;s unfair and oppressive for the taxpayers to impose conditions on what you can do with their money is &#8230; well, whining. And unbecoming. #ddtb<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n<p style='margin-bottom:5px;'><strong>Embedded Link<\/strong><\/p>\n<div style='height:120px;width:120px;overflow:hidden;float:left;margin-top:0px;padding-top:0px;margin-right:10px;vertical-align:top;text-align:center;clear:both;'>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img style='max-width:none;' src='http:\/\/images0-focus-opensocial.googleusercontent.com\/gadgets\/proxy?container=focus&#038;gadget=a&#038;resize_h=100&#038;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.catholicnewsagency.com%2Fimages%2FBishop_Thomas_Paprocki_CNA_US_Catholic_News_11_14_11.jpeg' border='0' \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href='http:\/\/www.catholicnewsagency.com\/news\/illinois-bishops-announce-shutdown-of-adoption-services\/'>Illinois bishops announce shutdown of adoption services :: Catholic News Agency (CNA)<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Bishops in three Illinois dioceses announced Nov. 14 that they have dropped their lawsuit against the state and will shut down their adoption and foster care programs, after a civil union law re&#8230;\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>No, really.If you blink reading this story, you almost miss it amongst the wailing and gnashing of teeth about how the state is oppressing the Church, that &quot;religious protection&quot; is at risk, and how &quot;faith-based agencies&quot; are being prevented from exercising their faith.What&#39;s at stake here is that the state was paying the Church, under &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/11\/15\/religious-freedom-doesnt-mean-you-get-paid-for-following-your-religion.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Religious Freedom doesn&#39;t mean you get paid for following your religion&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,109,25,718,378],"tags":[107],"class_list":["post-23752","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-church-state","category-gay-stuff","category-marriage-equality","category-intolerance-persecution","tag-ddtb"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":24935,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/12\/30\/is-discriminating-against-discrimination-discrimination.html","url_meta":{"origin":23752,"position":0},"title":"Is discriminating against discrimination discrimination?","author":"***Dave","date":"Fri 30-Dec-11 10:23am","format":false,"excerpt":"Not when it's Your Tax Dollars At Work, in my opinion. 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