{"id":23872,"date":"2011-11-20T14:41:28","date_gmt":"2011-11-20T21:41:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/11\/20\/will-the-occupiers-strike-back.html"},"modified":"2011-11-20T20:40:50","modified_gmt":"2011-11-21T03:40:50","slug":"will-the-occupiers-strike-back","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/11\/20\/will-the-occupiers-strike-back.html","title":{"rendered":"Will the Occupiers strike back?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I suspect it will happen, sooner or later.  I suspect, faced with batons and pepper spray, someone will ratchet up the response, will escalate matters, and from there things will get extremely nasty.<\/p>\n<p>I also strongly suspect that the Occupy leaders, such as they are, are doing their darnedest to keep that from happening, because at that point they will have suffered a tremendous blow.  That the movement folks keep speaking out against violent behavior (for normal values of violent) helps, too.<\/p>\n<p>Which, of course, raises the issue of agents provocateurs, whether it&#39;s plants in the movement that encourage more violent action, or plants who actually commit violent acts \/ vandalism and the like  (Alternately, there are likely to be some fringe activists who actually think that things <i>should<\/i> be ratcheted up to the next level; they bear watching for, too.) #ddtb<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n<p style='margin-bottom:5px;'><strong>Embedded Link<\/strong><\/p>\n<div style='height:120px;width:120px;overflow:hidden;float:left;margin-top:0px;padding-top:0px;margin-right:10px;vertical-align:top;text-align:center;clear:both;'>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img style='max-width:none;' src='http:\/\/images0-focus-opensocial.googleusercontent.com\/gadgets\/proxy?container=focus&#038;gadget=a&#038;resize_h=100&#038;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.decrepitoldfool.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F11%2Fpepper-spray-against-nonviolence.jpg' border='0' \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href='http:\/\/www.decrepitoldfool.com\/2011\/11\/violence-for-violence\/'>Violence for violence \u00ab Decrepit Old Fool<\/a><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tViolence for violence. By dof, on November 20th, 2011. In the face of police violence against non-violent protesters, Mike The Mad Biologist asks; Will Occupy Wall Street remain non-violent? \u201cI hope s&#8230;\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I suspect it will happen, sooner or later. I suspect, faced with batons and pepper spray, someone will ratchet up the response, will escalate matters, and from there things will get extremely nasty. I also strongly suspect that the Occupy leaders, such as they are, are doing their darnedest to keep that from happening, because &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/11\/20\/will-the-occupiers-strike-back.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Will the Occupiers strike back?&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,17],"tags":[107],"class_list":["post-23872","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-homeland-security","tag-ddtb"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":3653,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2002\/10\/13\/i_hope_youre_ha.html","url_meta":{"origin":23872,"position":0},"title":"I hope you&#8217;re happy, Reverend &#8230;","author":"***Dave","date":"Sun 13-Oct-02 9:28pm","format":false,"excerpt":"... because I suspect your Boss might be more than a bit irked with you. 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