{"id":23921,"date":"2011-11-21T07:10:44","date_gmt":"2011-11-21T14:10:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/11\/21\/dueling-dogma-isnt-dialogue.html"},"modified":"2011-11-21T08:59:22","modified_gmt":"2011-11-21T15:59:22","slug":"dueling-dogma-isnt-dialogue","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/11\/21\/dueling-dogma-isnt-dialogue.html","title":{"rendered":"&quot;Dueling dogma isn&#39;t dialogue&quot;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Dialog involves exploring and sharing of information and beliefs.  Debates (online or in person) tend to be about scoring rhetorical points and &quot;winning.&quot; I prefer the former to the latter (though it&#39;s easy to fall into debate mode). #ddtb<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n<p style='margin-bottom:5px;'><strong>Embedded Link<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href='http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/slacktivist\/2011\/11\/18\/dueling-dogma-isnt-dialogue\/'>slacktivist  \u00bb Dueling dogma isn\u2019t dialogue<\/a><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tTweet. Another part of my complaint about \u201cdebates\u201d like the one we discussed yesterday (on \u201cThe World Would Be Better Off Without Religion\u201c) is that I think such point-scoring face-offs wind up repla&#8230;\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dialog involves exploring and sharing of information and beliefs. Debates (online or in person) tend to be about scoring rhetorical points and &quot;winning.&quot; I prefer the former to the latter (though it&#39;s easy to fall into debate mode). #ddtb Embedded Link slacktivist \u00bb Dueling dogma isn\u2019t dialogue Tweet. Another part of my complaint about \u201cdebates\u201d &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/11\/21\/dueling-dogma-isnt-dialogue.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;&quot;Dueling dogma isn&#39;t dialogue&quot;&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,8],"tags":[107],"class_list":["post-23921","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-zt-pc","tag-ddtb"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":153528,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2021\/03\/07\/still-chatty-after-all-these-years.html","url_meta":{"origin":23921,"position":0},"title":"Still chatty after all these years","author":"***Dave","date":"Sun 7-Mar-21 12:30am","format":false,"excerpt":"The Stupid Evil Podcast is ... well, it was fun.","rel":"","context":"In &quot;DDtB-SEB Podcasts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"DDtB-SEB Podcasts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/podcasts\/ddtb-seb-podcasts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/still-chatty-after-all-these-years-f7WYuWsxxqQ.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/still-chatty-after-all-these-years-f7WYuWsxxqQ.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/still-chatty-after-all-these-years-f7WYuWsxxqQ.jpg?resize=525%2C300&ssl=1 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/still-chatty-after-all-these-years-f7WYuWsxxqQ.jpg?resize=700%2C400&ssl=1 2x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/still-chatty-after-all-these-years-f7WYuWsxxqQ.jpg?resize=1050%2C600&ssl=1 3x"},"classes":[]},{"id":136275,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2018\/05\/06\/and-lo-there-shall-come-another-seb-podcast.html","url_meta":{"origin":23921,"position":1},"title":"And, lo, there shall come another SEB Podcast!","author":"***Dave","date":"Sun 6-May-18 2:56pm","format":false,"excerpt":"It's been an astonishing three years since +Les Jenkins and I did one of his Stupid Evil Bastard podcasts (the biggest takeaway from which was that it had been three years since we previously did it, and that was clearly way, way too long). 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