{"id":24015,"date":"2011-11-24T21:52:55","date_gmt":"2011-11-25T04:52:55","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/11\/24\/thanksgiving-arguments.html"},"modified":"2011-11-25T13:04:31","modified_gmt":"2011-11-25T20:04:31","slug":"thanksgiving-arguments","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/11\/24\/thanksgiving-arguments.html","title":{"rendered":"Thanksgiving Arguments"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#39;m pleased to say that none of the below were arguments over the dinner tables at our house.  Not that everyone there was in agreement on all these issues &#8212; just that nobody felt that arguing over politics to score rhetorical points was of more interest than simply enjoying each others&#39; company. #ddtb<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n<p style='margin-bottom:5px;'><strong>Embedded Link<\/strong><\/p>\n<div style='height:120px;width:120px;overflow:hidden;float:left;margin-top:0px;padding-top:0px;margin-right:10px;vertical-align:top;text-align:center;clear:both;'>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img style='max-width:none;' src='http:\/\/images0-focus-opensocial.googleusercontent.com\/gadgets\/proxy?container=focus&#038;gadget=a&#038;resize_h=100&#038;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.slate.com%2Fcontent%2Fdam%2Fslate%2Farticles%2Fnews_and_politics%2Fpolitics%2F2011%2F11%2F111123_POL_turkeyTussle.jpg.CROP.thumbnail-small.jpg' border='0' \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href='http:\/\/www.slate.com\/articles\/news_and_politics\/politics\/2011\/11\/ows_vs_the_tea_party_supercommittee_failure_the_republican_presidential_race_slate_s_annual_guide_to_your_thanksgiving_dinner_table_arguments_.html?tid=sm_p1_button_chunky'>OWS vs. the Tea Party, supercommittee failure, the Republican presidential race: Slate\u2019s annual guide to your Thanksgiving dinner-table arguments.<\/a><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tFirst, a prayer: May your Thanksgiving gathering be the supercommittee of our dreams, which is to say a happy meeting where everyone gets along despite their ideological differences and divides the pi&#8230;\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#39;m pleased to say that none of the below were arguments over the dinner tables at our house. Not that everyone there was in agreement on all these issues &#8212; just that nobody felt that arguing over politics to score rhetorical points was of more interest than simply enjoying each others&#39; company. #ddtb Embedded Link &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/11\/24\/thanksgiving-arguments.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Thanksgiving Arguments&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,68],"tags":[107],"class_list":["post-24015","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-holidays","tag-ddtb"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":153528,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2021\/03\/07\/still-chatty-after-all-these-years.html","url_meta":{"origin":24015,"position":0},"title":"Still chatty after all these years","author":"***Dave","date":"Sun 7-Mar-21 12:30am","format":false,"excerpt":"The Stupid Evil Podcast is ... well, it was fun.","rel":"","context":"In &quot;DDtB-SEB Podcasts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"DDtB-SEB Podcasts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/podcasts\/ddtb-seb-podcasts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/still-chatty-after-all-these-years-f7WYuWsxxqQ.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/still-chatty-after-all-these-years-f7WYuWsxxqQ.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/still-chatty-after-all-these-years-f7WYuWsxxqQ.jpg?resize=525%2C300&ssl=1 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/still-chatty-after-all-these-years-f7WYuWsxxqQ.jpg?resize=700%2C400&ssl=1 2x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/still-chatty-after-all-these-years-f7WYuWsxxqQ.jpg?resize=1050%2C600&ssl=1 3x"},"classes":[]},{"id":136275,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2018\/05\/06\/and-lo-there-shall-come-another-seb-podcast.html","url_meta":{"origin":24015,"position":1},"title":"And, lo, there shall come another SEB Podcast!","author":"***Dave","date":"Sun 6-May-18 2:56pm","format":false,"excerpt":"It's been an astonishing three years since +Les Jenkins and I did one of his Stupid Evil Bastard podcasts (the biggest takeaway from which was that it had been three years since we previously did it, and that was clearly way, way too long). 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