{"id":24039,"date":"2011-11-25T14:04:50","date_gmt":"2011-11-25T21:04:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/11\/25\/in-god-i-trust-but-im-not-going-to-presume-for-you.html"},"modified":"2011-11-26T20:58:09","modified_gmt":"2011-11-27T03:58:09","slug":"in-god-i-trust-but-im-not-going-to-presume-for-you","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/11\/25\/in-god-i-trust-but-im-not-going-to-presume-for-you.html","title":{"rendered":"In God I Trust &#8230; but I&#39;m not going to presume for you"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Not sure how plastering &quot;In God We Trust&quot; around City Hall is somehow speaking &quot;on behalf of our men and women who defend our freedoms, those who are military veterans, reservists and active-duty personnel who live in our community.&quot;<\/p>\n<p>Especially when it&#39;s done on the basis of &quot;ceremonial deism,&quot; which means it&#39;s basically just mouthing vaguely religious platitudes by nationalistic rote.  If that&#39;s what it&#39;s meant to represent, then it&#39;s an insult to the godly as well as dissenters. #ddtb<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n<p style='margin-bottom:5px;'><strong>Embedded Link<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href='http:\/\/www.au.org\/blogs\/wall-of-separation\/motto-mania-calif-woman-promotes-government-endorsed-%E2%80%98in-god-we-trust%E2%80%99'>Motto Mania: Calif. Woman Promotes Government-Endorsed \u2018In God We Trust\u2019 Signs | Americans United<\/a><\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Not sure how plastering &quot;In God We Trust&quot; around City Hall is somehow speaking &quot;on behalf of our men and women who defend our freedoms, those who are military veterans, reservists and active-duty personnel who live in our community.&quot; Especially when it&#39;s done on the basis of &quot;ceremonial deism,&quot; which means it&#39;s basically just mouthing &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/11\/25\/in-god-i-trust-but-im-not-going-to-presume-for-you.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;In God I Trust &#8230; but I&#39;m not going to presume for you&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,109],"tags":[107],"class_list":["post-24039","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-church-state","tag-ddtb"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":153528,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2021\/03\/07\/still-chatty-after-all-these-years.html","url_meta":{"origin":24039,"position":0},"title":"Still chatty after all these years","author":"***Dave","date":"Sun 7-Mar-21 12:30am","format":false,"excerpt":"The Stupid Evil Podcast is ... well, it was fun.","rel":"","context":"In &quot;DDtB-SEB Podcasts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"DDtB-SEB Podcasts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/podcasts\/ddtb-seb-podcasts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/still-chatty-after-all-these-years-f7WYuWsxxqQ.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/still-chatty-after-all-these-years-f7WYuWsxxqQ.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/still-chatty-after-all-these-years-f7WYuWsxxqQ.jpg?resize=525%2C300&ssl=1 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/still-chatty-after-all-these-years-f7WYuWsxxqQ.jpg?resize=700%2C400&ssl=1 2x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/still-chatty-after-all-these-years-f7WYuWsxxqQ.jpg?resize=1050%2C600&ssl=1 3x"},"classes":[]},{"id":136275,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2018\/05\/06\/and-lo-there-shall-come-another-seb-podcast.html","url_meta":{"origin":24039,"position":1},"title":"And, lo, there shall come another SEB Podcast!","author":"***Dave","date":"Sun 6-May-18 2:56pm","format":false,"excerpt":"It's been an astonishing three years since +Les Jenkins and I did one of his Stupid Evil Bastard podcasts (the biggest takeaway from which was that it had been three years since we previously did it, and that was clearly way, way too long). 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