{"id":24054,"date":"2011-11-26T19:17:02","date_gmt":"2011-11-27T02:17:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/11\/26\/make-a-cross-on-your-abdomen-when-in-rome-do-like-a-roman.html"},"modified":"2011-11-26T20:56:36","modified_gmt":"2011-11-27T03:56:36","slug":"make-a-cross-on-your-abdomen-when-in-rome-do-like-a-roman","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/11\/26\/make-a-cross-on-your-abdomen-when-in-rome-do-like-a-roman.html","title":{"rendered":"Make a cross on your abdomen \/ When in Rome do like a Roman"},"content":{"rendered":"

I grew up on the post-Vatican II liturgy (and "The Vatican Rag" http:\/\/youtu.be\/3f72CTDe4-0<\/a> ), and I have to say this feels like an ideologically-driven step backward. Sure, there's may well be more poetry in some of the changes, but any liturgy that adds in the word "consubstantial" is being driven more by theological purity than the needs of any congregation. #ddtb<\/p>\n

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I grew up on the post-Vatican II liturgy (and "The Vatican Rag" http:\/\/youtu.be\/3f72CTDe4-0 ), and I have to say this feels like an ideologically-driven step backward. Sure, there's may well be more poetry in some of the changes, but any liturgy that adds in the word "consubstantial" is being driven more by theological purity than … Continue reading “Make a cross on your abdomen \/ When in Rome do like a Roman”<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,27],"tags":[107],"class_list":["post-24054","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-religion","tag-ddtb"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":153528,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2021\/03\/07\/still-chatty-after-all-these-years.html","url_meta":{"origin":24054,"position":0},"title":"Still chatty after all these years","author":"***Dave","date":"Sun 7-Mar-21 12:30am","format":false,"excerpt":"The Stupid Evil Podcast is ... well, it was fun.","rel":"","context":"In "DDtB-SEB Podcasts"","block_context":{"text":"DDtB-SEB Podcasts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/podcasts\/ddtb-seb-podcasts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/still-chatty-after-all-these-years-f7WYuWsxxqQ.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/still-chatty-after-all-these-years-f7WYuWsxxqQ.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/still-chatty-after-all-these-years-f7WYuWsxxqQ.jpg?resize=525%2C300&ssl=1 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/still-chatty-after-all-these-years-f7WYuWsxxqQ.jpg?resize=700%2C400&ssl=1 2x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/still-chatty-after-all-these-years-f7WYuWsxxqQ.jpg?resize=1050%2C600&ssl=1 3x"},"classes":[]},{"id":136275,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2018\/05\/06\/and-lo-there-shall-come-another-seb-podcast.html","url_meta":{"origin":24054,"position":1},"title":"And, lo, there shall come another SEB Podcast!","author":"***Dave","date":"Sun 6-May-18 2:56pm","format":false,"excerpt":"It's been an astonishing three years since +Les Jenkins and I did one of his Stupid Evil Bastard podcasts (the biggest takeaway from which was that it had been three years since we previously did it, and that was clearly way, way too long). 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