{"id":24132,"date":"2011-11-29T22:38:59","date_gmt":"2011-11-30T05:38:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/11\/29\/in-god-we-all-trust-or-else.html"},"modified":"2011-11-29T23:43:57","modified_gmt":"2011-11-30T06:43:57","slug":"in-god-we-all-trust-or-else","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/11\/29\/in-god-we-all-trust-or-else.html","title":{"rendered":"In God We All Trust, Or Else"},"content":{"rendered":"

The courts have allowed mention of God in official governmental items such as our money and our national motto and the Pledge of Allegiance under the principle of "ceremonial deism" — the idea that it's not really religion, but more of a tribal traditional sort of thing. Which ought to give anyone who takes such statements seriously the willies …<\/p>\n

… but too many other actions demonstrate that a lot of people feel differently, that they see "In God We Trust," for example, not just as a national booyah<\/i> chant, but a real statement of religious fervor. Such as Georgia, which now has a bill going through its statehouse that would change license from having the issuing county on them (with the option of someone paying for a "In God We Trust" sticker if they so chose<\/i> ) to having all license plates with the religious motto unless someone wants to pay extra for a county sticker.<\/p>\n

This is not, of course, a sign of mutual, communal grunting, but an assertive religious statement. That there's an option to opt out is nice, but that it's an extra pay option is not.<\/p>\n

If your religious fervor requires you to proclaim your faith from the back of your car, may I suggest a lovely bumper sticker, rather than compelling all your neighbors to do the same? #ddtb<\/p>\n

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