{"id":24134,"date":"2011-11-29T22:24:02","date_gmt":"2011-11-30T05:24:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/11\/29\/as-the-police-become-militarized-the-military-becomes-more-policey.html"},"modified":"2011-11-29T23:32:17","modified_gmt":"2011-11-30T06:32:17","slug":"as-the-police-become-militarized-the-military-becomes-more-policey","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/11\/29\/as-the-police-become-militarized-the-military-becomes-more-policey.html","title":{"rendered":"As the police become militarized, the military becomes &#8230; more policey"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The Senate continues to move forward with a national defense budget that includes requiring the military (vs the police, the FBI, etc.) to take custody of anyone identified as being a member of al-Qaeda.<\/p>\n<p>Which maybe sounds just fine (as one letter writer in the Denver Post put it, &quot;we don&#39;t seem to have a problem with the military arresting civilians&quot;), but this is a classic example of a slippery slope &#8212; first al-Qaeda, then any other terrorist group, then other &quot;serious&quot; crimes, then &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>I rarely find myself on the same side as Rand Paul or Mark Kirk on anything, but they, along with most Senate Democrats, oppose this part of the Defense bill, and I do hope that Obama keeps his promise to veto it. #ddtb<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n<p style='margin-bottom:5px;'><strong>Embedded Link<\/strong><\/p>\n<div style='height:120px;width:120px;overflow:hidden;float:left;margin-top:0px;padding-top:0px;margin-right:10px;vertical-align:top;text-align:center;clear:both;'>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img style='max-width:none;' src='http:\/\/images0-focus-opensocial.googleusercontent.com\/gadgets\/proxy?container=focus&#038;gadget=a&#038;resize_h=100&#038;url=http%3A%2F%2Fi.i.com.com%2Fcnwk.1d%2Fi%2Fcbsnews%2F2006%2F09%2F18%2Fimage2020154l.jpg' border='0' \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href='http:\/\/www.cbsnews.com\/8301-503544_162-57333243-503544\/senate-keeps-controversial-detainee-policy-in-defense-bill\/'>Senate keeps controversial detainee policy in defense bill &#8211; Political Hotsheet &#8211; CBS News<\/a><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tSenate keeps controversial provision in Defense bill requiring military to detain terrorist suspects; Obama has threatened to veto the bill Read more by Stephanie Condon on CBS News&#39; Political Hotshee&#8230;\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Senate continues to move forward with a national defense budget that includes requiring the military (vs the police, the FBI, etc.) to take custody of anyone identified as being a member of al-Qaeda. 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