{"id":2423,"date":"2002-06-26T14:33:54","date_gmt":"2002-06-26T19:33:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/?p=2423"},"modified":"2002-06-26T14:33:54","modified_gmt":"2002-06-26T19:33:54","slug":"papa_spank","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2002\/06\/26\/papa_spank.html","title":{"rendered":"Papa spank!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A new study condemns <a href=\"http:\/\/edition.cnn.com\/2002\/HEALTH\/parenting\/06\/25\/spanking.study.ap\/index.html\">spanking<\/a> as a viable punishment for children.<\/p>\n<p class=\"block\">The psychologist, Elizabeth Gershoff, found links between spanking and 10 negative behaviors or experiences, including aggression, anti-social behavior and mental health problems. The one positive result of spanking that she identified was quick compliance with parental demands. <br \/>\n&#8220;Americans need to re-evaluate why we believe it is reasonable to hit young, vulnerable children, when it is against the law to hit other adults, prisoners, and even animals,&#8221; Gershoff writes in the new edition of the American Psychological Association&#8217;s bimonthly journal.<\/p>\n<p>The study is accompanied by a critique from three other psychologists, which says that &#8220;mild to moderate&#8221; spanking is effective, especially between the ages of 2 and 6, but may be dangerous for adults with &#8220;abusive tendencies.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Well, duh.<\/p>\n<p>I can speak, anecdotally, from my own experience, that spanking was, in fact, an effective deterrant and an effective behavior-modifying punishment.  My parents did not spank me much, but when they did, it drove home the lesson they were trying to teach.<\/p>\n<p>The fallacies in Gershoff&#8217;s analogy are, first, that spanking, as a punishment, is not the same as &#8220;hitting&#8221; an adult or a prisoner, or an animal.  If you use the same force, or even the same technique, in striking an a child as you do an adult, then, yes, I&#8217;d agree you&#8217;re being inappropriately abusive.  And hitting adults (or prisoners) is usually done to physically subdue them, which is not the same as why adults (rational ones, at least) spank kids.<\/p>\n<p>And, yes, using a riding crop, or a cattle prod, or even whapping Fido&#8217;s nose with a rolled-up newspaper, is still a valid way to modify an animal&#8217;s behavior.  If that&#8217;s all you use, or if you sit there and whip the poor beast bloody, no, that&#8217;s not right.  Ditto for children.<\/p>\n<p>But I don&#8217;t have much compunction about giving Katherine a swat on her (padded) behind if she&#8217;s just run out into traffic after I shout, &#8220;Stop&#8221;.  Or giving her a little flick of the finger on top of her hand, or on her ear.  Not to <i>injure <\/i>her, and not to express <i>my <\/i>anger, but to make it clear that such behavior is not acceptable, and will have unpleasant consequences more than Daddy bellowing in that loud, funny voice of his.<\/p>\n<p>The issue is moderation and appropriateness.  Maybe that&#8217;s too hard a lesson for most people to grasp these days.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A new study condemns spanking as a viable punishment for children. 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