{"id":24248,"date":"2011-12-05T15:16:03","date_gmt":"2011-12-05T22:16:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/12\/05\/what-makes-fantasy-fantasy.html"},"modified":"2011-12-05T20:16:40","modified_gmt":"2011-12-06T03:16:40","slug":"what-makes-fantasy-fantasy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/12\/05\/what-makes-fantasy-fantasy.html","title":{"rendered":"What Makes Fantasy Fantasy?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>As opposed to, say, SF?  Does the presence of psionics \/ ESP make something Fantasy (or SF)?  How about things that are claimed to be tech, but meld up with Clarke&#39;s Law (&quot;Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic&quot;?), including things that we&#39;d currently consider impossible by our understanding of the laws of the universe (gravity plates on ships; FTL drives)?<\/p>\n<p>Is it Fantasy if the guys with pointed ears come from a Fairy Mound, but SF if they come from Vulcan?<\/p>\n<p>For that matter, what about religious elements? If a prayer is apparently answered in a novel, does that make it fantasy? How is that different from a magic spell (which would be &quot;clearly&quot; fantasy)?  Or a psychodrama delusion (which we&#39;d consider simple drama)?<\/p>\n<p>Some thought-provoking musings in the below from De. #ddtb<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n<p style='margin-bottom:5px;'><strong>Embedded Link<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href='http:\/\/blog.deannaknippling.com\/?p=3714'>deannaknippling.com  \u00bb Blog Archive   \u00bb The Distance of Fantasy<\/a><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tI&#39;ve been thinking about fantasy novels, having written a lot about mirrors lately during NaNoWriMo (via Through the Looking-Glass). What is fantasy? A reflection, either internal or external, of &#8230;\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As opposed to, say, SF? Does the presence of psionics \/ ESP make something Fantasy (or SF)? How about things that are claimed to be tech, but meld up with Clarke&#39;s Law (&quot;Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic&quot;?), including things that we&#39;d currently consider impossible by our understanding of the laws of the &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/12\/05\/what-makes-fantasy-fantasy.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;What Makes Fantasy Fantasy?&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,36,24],"tags":[107],"class_list":["post-24248","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-media-books","category-writing-and-language","tag-ddtb"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":24069,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/11\/26\/worldbuilding.html","url_meta":{"origin":24248,"position":0},"title":"Worldbuilding","author":"***Dave","date":"Sat 26-Nov-11 9:43pm","format":false,"excerpt":"In a reality where folks debate whether it's possible for a man to coherently write something from the perspective of a female (or, less rarely, vice-versa), how can you right about another culture, or historical fiction, or, even less probably, fantasy or science fiction? #ddtb Embedded Link World building 101\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":26639,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/02\/23\/no-you-cant-blame-newt-gingrich-on-sf-or-on-robert-heinlein.html","url_meta":{"origin":24248,"position":1},"title":"No, you can&#39;t blame Newt Gingrich on SF (or on Robert Heinlein)","author":"***Dave","date":"Thu 23-Feb-12 8:54am","format":false,"excerpt":"I can't imagine Heinlein being particular pleased with any of the GOP candidates this year. 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