{"id":24346,"date":"2011-12-08T11:21:54","date_gmt":"2011-12-08T18:21:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/12\/08\/secrets-de-jure-vs-secrets-de-facto.html"},"modified":"2011-12-08T14:40:54","modified_gmt":"2011-12-08T21:40:54","slug":"secrets-de-jure-vs-secrets-de-facto","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/12\/08\/secrets-de-jure-vs-secrets-de-facto.html","title":{"rendered":"Secrets de jure vs Secrets de facto"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>An interesting look at how stuff that is classified stays classified &#8212; even if it&#39;s already been leaked.  Also an interesting look at what sort of stuff gets redacted when FOIA requests come back marked up. #ddtb<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n<p style='margin-bottom:5px;'><strong>Embedded Link<\/strong><\/p>\n<div style='height:120px;width:120px;overflow:hidden;float:left;margin-top:0px;padding-top:0px;margin-right:10px;vertical-align:top;text-align:center;clear:both;'>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img style='max-width:none;' src='http:\/\/images0-focus-opensocial.googleusercontent.com\/gadgets\/proxy?container=focus&#038;gadget=a&#038;resize_h=100&#038;url=http%3A%2F%2Fgraphics8.nytimes.com%2F%2Fimages%2F2010%2F11%2F29%2Fworld%2F29cables-web1%2F29cables-web1-thumbWide.jpg' border='0' \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href='http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2011\/12\/08\/us\/state-dept-withholds-cables-that-wikileak-posted.html?_r=1'>State Dept. Withholds Cables That WikiLeaks Posted<\/a><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tThe quarter-million confidential State Department cables obtained by WikiLeaks last year have been public on the Web for months. The government is pretending otherwise.\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>An interesting look at how stuff that is classified stays classified &#8212; even if it&#39;s already been leaked. Also an interesting look at what sort of stuff gets redacted when FOIA requests come back marked up. #ddtb Embedded Link State Dept. 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