{"id":24423,"date":"2011-12-10T11:19:05","date_gmt":"2011-12-10T18:19:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/12\/10\/im-willing-to-be-culturally-impolite-in-the-name-of-freedom.html"},"modified":"2011-12-10T22:08:16","modified_gmt":"2011-12-11T05:08:16","slug":"im-willing-to-be-culturally-impolite-in-the-name-of-freedom","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/12\/10\/im-willing-to-be-culturally-impolite-in-the-name-of-freedom.html","title":{"rendered":"I&#39;m willing to be culturally impolite in the name of freedom"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Interesting article in the CS Monitor (<a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/rtGmwL\" >http:\/\/bit.ly\/rtGmwL<\/a>) on the reaction by a variety of African governments to the Administrations position on protecting gay rights &#8212; most of which boil down to, &quot;We think it&#39;s icky, so we&#39;re terribly insulted by the US position.&quot;<\/p>\n<p>Now I usually try to be a polite person, and appreciate that others hold different views, and not impose my beliefs on others.  But to me this issue is no different from existing US policy on religious freedom, women&#39;s rights, or other fundamental liberties.  I suspect those US critics of the policy from the Right who disingenuously talk about this being culturally insensitive and hegemonic are just the folks who would scream if the US didn&#39;t concern itself with, say, Christian persecution in some of these same nations.<\/p>\n<p>I don&#39;t expect that the US can impose its values on the rest of the world. I do expect us to do what we can to protect people from persecution, and to encourage human rights abroad by our actions.  We fall far too short of that in terms of actually living up to our highfalutin&#39; ideals, but that doesn&#39;t mean we shouldn&#39;t try.  Even if it&#39;s unpopular. #ddtb<br \/><a href='http:\/\/www.csmonitor.com\/var\/ezflow_site\/storage\/images\/media\/images2\/graphics\/2011\/1208\/okenya-gays-lesbians-africa-graphic\/11185776-1-eng-US\/OKENYA-gays-lesbians-africa-graphic_full_600.jpg'><img src='http:\/\/www.csmonitor.com\/var\/ezflow_site\/storage\/images\/media\/images2\/graphics\/2011\/1208\/okenya-gays-lesbians-africa-graphic\/11185776-1-eng-US\/OKENYA-gays-lesbians-africa-graphic_full_600.jpg' style='max-width:97.5%;clear:both;' border='0' \/><\/a><span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Interesting article in the CS Monitor (http:\/\/bit.ly\/rtGmwL) on the reaction by a variety of African governments to the Administrations position on protecting gay rights &#8212; most of which boil down to, &quot;We think it&#39;s icky, so we&#39;re terribly insulted by the US position.&quot; Now I usually try to be a polite person, and appreciate that &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/12\/10\/im-willing-to-be-culturally-impolite-in-the-name-of-freedom.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;I&#39;m willing to be culturally impolite in the name of freedom&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,10,25,9,8],"tags":[107],"class_list":["post-24423","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-geopolitical-brouhaha","category-gay-stuff","category-politics-law","category-zt-pc","tag-ddtb"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":1440,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2002\/01\/05\/calling_a_spade.html","url_meta":{"origin":24423,"position":0},"title":"Calling a spade a spade (so to speak)","author":"***Dave","date":"Sat 5-Jan-02 1:04am","format":false,"excerpt":"James Lileks rants on Peace Schools and the idea that all cultures are equally wonderful. 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