{"id":2445,"date":"2002-06-20T09:09:11","date_gmt":"2002-06-20T14:09:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/?p=2445"},"modified":"2002-06-20T09:09:11","modified_gmt":"2002-06-20T14:09:11","slug":"when_will_they","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2002\/06\/20\/when_will_they.html","title":{"rendered":"When will they learn?"},"content":{"rendered":"

NPR is learning the cost of trying to ban un-registered links to its page: a storm of protest<\/a>, bad press, and — of course — additional unregistered links<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Quoth the NPR Ombudsman:<\/p>\n

“… NPR does not refuse links but it just wants to make sure that the links are appropriate to a noncommercial and journalistic organization.”<\/p>\n

That’s not your call, any more than its the call of someone whom you are quoting in a news story to determine whether your quotations are appropriate to what sort of person or orgainzation they purport to be.<\/p>\n

“We wouldn’t want a commercial outfit to use us in any way they pleased.” <\/p>\n

What sort of ways are you envisioning? Your material is still copyrighted — use of the material beyond established Fair Use doctrine is already actionable.<\/p>\n

He acknowledged that some commercial sites link to NPR — Yahoo, for instance — but “they have an underwriting relationship with us,” he said. <\/p>\n

Aha. Here’s the meat of the matter, perhaps. If you don’t underwrite, you shouldn’t be linking. Well, folks, there’s a simple way around that — make yourself a pay site. Others have (albeit with mixed success).<\/p>\n

It isn’t only commercial activity that concerns NPR. Asked if a link from someone’s noncommercial homepage would bother the company, Dvorkin said: “It depends on your homepage — what if you’re an advocate for left-handed socialist diabetics? We wouldn’t want to give support to advocacy groups.” <\/p>\n

You report news. Information. If there is information that someone wants to use to advocate a point, that’s not your worry, is it? Indeed, don’t you want <\/i>folks talking about something they heard on NPR?<\/p>\n

Heck, do you propose that libraries not allow anyone to check out books because they could be used to advocate a particular position?<\/p>\n

Don’t you, in fact, in addition to news, run commentary pieces that advocate certain positions? <\/p>\n

What the hell does this mean? <\/p>\n

“It’s part of keeping our integrity that our journalism remain noncommercial, and we’re not engaged in advocacy in any way,” Dvorkin explained. <\/p>\n

If you are so afraid of a commercial site somehow profiting from a link to your page, or that someone might quote (or link to) an NPR article to advocate some position or another — then get the hell off the web. Heck, better shut down your broadcasts, too.<\/p>\n

Still, NPR will continue to require that every site — whether it’s commercial or not, advocates a position or doesn’t — still ask permission. Why? “Because we want to keep track of who’s doing it — so says our law department.”<\/p>\n

There’s this great device called “Google”? Maybe you’ve heard of it. Or perhaps your referrer logs could be used — the guys down in IT can explain that, too.<\/p>\n

What about the folks who link without registering?<\/p>\n

“Well, they’ll have to live with the guilt forever,” Dvorkin said, only half-jokingly. “I don’t think we’re going to chase them down into county court. But (seeking permission) is a matter of respect and honor for what we’re trying to do here.”<\/p>\n

Since I don’t respect or honor this sort of intrusiveness, I guess that means I don’t have to do it, right?<\/p>\n

Jerks.<\/p>\n

(Via Boing Boing<\/a>)<\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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