{"id":24650,"date":"2011-12-18T18:37:09","date_gmt":"2011-12-19T01:37:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/12\/18\/can-you-be-a-faithful-muslim-and-a-loyal-american.html"},"modified":"2014-11-05T14:39:36","modified_gmt":"2014-11-05T21:39:36","slug":"can-you-be-a-faithful-muslim-and-a-loyal-american","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/12\/18\/can-you-be-a-faithful-muslim-and-a-loyal-american.html","title":{"rendered":"Can you be a faithful Muslim and a loyal American?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Well, can you be a faithful Christian and a loyal American?  How about a faithful Jew, or Buddhist, or Hindu, or Wiccan, or &#8230;?<\/p>\n<p>For anyone with a particular religious faith &#8212; or any sort of personal moral code &#8212; there may come a time when that interferes with one&#39;s relationship with one&#39;s nation.  When the civil law says one thing, and one&#39;s conscience another.  That&#39;s certainly not just true for Muslims &#8212; consider the number of &quot;conscience clauses&quot; that Christian groups are seeking for laws that conflict with their faith (on gay marriage, on contraception, on abortion).  <\/p>\n<p>Identity with one&#39;s religious group first, one&#39;s nation second, is not a Muslim monopoly.  Indeed, any good Christian <i>must<\/i> believe the same thing. The difference is, Christians who really worry about this sort of thing from Muslims assume that America = Christian, and so don&#39;t see it as something they need to worry about (except when those Un-Christian Un-Americans take power, but that isn&#39;t a matter of opposing America, but the Secular Atheists Who Are Ruining Her &#8212; i.e., True Christians = True Americans and vice-versa).<\/p>\n<p>Motes and beams &#8230; #ddtb<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n<p style='margin-bottom:5px;'><strong>Embedded Link<\/strong><\/p>\n<div style='height:120px;width:120px;overflow:hidden;float:left;margin-top:0px;padding-top:0px;margin-right:10px;vertical-align:top;text-align:center;clear:both;'>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img style='max-width:none;' src='http:\/\/images0-focus-opensocial.googleusercontent.com\/gadgets\/proxy?container=focus&#038;gadget=a&#038;resize_h=100&#038;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.faithinpubliclife.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fquran.jpg' border='0' \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href='http:\/\/www.faithinpubliclife.org\/blog\/christian-religious-identity-vs-muslims\/'>Christian Religious Identity vs. Muslims | Faith in Public Life<\/a><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tThe core lie underlying the recent rise of Islamophobia is the claim that Muslims&#39; loyalty to their faith makes them untrustworthy Americans. As we&#39;ve tracked in the past, Anti-Muslim commenta&#8230;\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Well, can you be a faithful Christian and a loyal American? How about a faithful Jew, or Buddhist, or Hindu, or Wiccan, or &#8230;? For anyone with a particular religious faith &#8212; or any sort of personal moral code &#8212; there may come a time when that interferes with one&#39;s relationship with one&#39;s nation. When &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/12\/18\/can-you-be-a-faithful-muslim-and-a-loyal-american.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Can you be a faithful Muslim and a loyal American?&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,718,27,8],"tags":[107],"class_list":["post-24650","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-marriage-equality","category-religion","category-zt-pc","tag-ddtb"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":127887,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2015\/09\/04\/laws-oaths-faith-and-kim-davis.html","url_meta":{"origin":24650,"position":0},"title":"Laws, Oaths, Faith, and Kim Davis","author":"***Dave","date":"Fri 4-Sep-15 5:37pm","format":false,"excerpt":"For those who are couching the Kim Davis debate as one of religious freedom (I'm raising an eyebrow at you, Messrs. 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