{"id":24780,"date":"2011-12-23T19:42:54","date_gmt":"2011-12-24T02:42:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/12\/23\/trust-us-were-from-the-government-and-can-kill-you-if-we-deem-it-necessar.html"},"modified":"2011-12-23T22:30:02","modified_gmt":"2011-12-24T05:30:02","slug":"trust-us-were-from-the-government-and-can-kill-you-if-we-deem-it-necessar","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/12\/23\/trust-us-were-from-the-government-and-can-kill-you-if-we-deem-it-necessar.html","title":{"rendered":"Trust us, we&#39;re from the government (and can kill you if we deem it necessary)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Trust us, we&#39;re from the government (and can kill you if we deem it necessary)<\/p>\n<p>This is not specifically a partisan issue, nor an issue solely with this administration.  The arguments and precedents used by the Obama White House in this are taken directly from the arguments used by the Dubya White House (and executive privilege and national security arguments made by White Houses going back sixty years).  And I&#39;m pretty certain they will be continued by any conceivable administration going forward.<\/p>\n<p>Doesn&#39;t mean I&#39;m any less appalled, disappointed, or angry at the Obama Administration over it, however. #ddtb<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n<p style='margin-bottom:5px;'><strong>Embedded Link<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href='http:\/\/www.loweringthebar.net\/2011\/12\/for-christmas-your-government-will-explain.html?utm_source=feedburner&#038;utm_medium=feed&#038;utm_campaign=Feed:+LoweringTheBar+(Lowering+the+Bar)'>For Christmas, Your Government Will Explain Why It&#39;s Legal to Kill You &#8211; Lowering the Bar<\/a><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tHa! Just kidding! It won&#39;t tell you that. That&#39;s classified! Plaintiffs The New York Times Company, Charlie Savage, and Scott Shane (jointly, &quot;NYT&quot;), by their undersigned attorney, allege for their Co&#8230;\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Trust us, we&#39;re from the government (and can kill you if we deem it necessary) This is not specifically a partisan issue, nor an issue solely with this administration. The arguments and precedents used by the Obama White House in this are taken directly from the arguments used by the Dubya White House (and executive &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/12\/23\/trust-us-were-from-the-government-and-can-kill-you-if-we-deem-it-necessar.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Trust us, we&#39;re from the government (and can kill you if we deem it necessary)&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,17],"tags":[107],"class_list":["post-24780","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-homeland-security","tag-ddtb"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":13572,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2008\/11\/12\/let_the_witch_hunts_begin.html","url_meta":{"origin":24780,"position":0},"title":"Let the witch hunts begin!","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 12-Nov-08 11:44am","format":false,"excerpt":"Except, y'know ... witch hunts are sometimes necessary to uncover real witches. 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