{"id":25209,"date":"2012-01-08T13:24:58","date_gmt":"2012-01-08T20:24:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/01\/08\/the-gop-candidates-and-gay-marriage.html"},"modified":"2014-11-05T14:05:39","modified_gmt":"2014-11-05T21:05:39","slug":"the-gop-candidates-and-gay-marriage","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/01\/08\/the-gop-candidates-and-gay-marriage.html","title":{"rendered":"The GOP candidates and Gay Marriage"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Dear Mr. Gingrich: I realize your own sense of what marriage consists of may be different than most, and it&#39;s nice that you attribute a bit more to gay relationships than just depraved lust, but dismissing married gay couples as just &quot;friends&quot; is demeaning and arrogant &#8230; just what we&#39;ve come to expect from you.<\/p>\n<p>Also, neither the US government or state governments institute &quot;sacraments.&quot;  Baptism is not done at the post office, Last Rites are not overseen by Medicare administrators, Confirmation is not a class in middle school. So why do you think that the battle over gay marriage is about whether &quot;institute the sacrament of marriage&quot;?  That&#39;s a matter for churches, not the legislature.<\/p>\n<p>Dear Mr. Romney: If someone were to say that marriage is a Christian sacrament (see Mr. Gingrich, above), and therefore Mormon marriages weren&#39;t really marriage, and why do those crazy Mormons need to appropriate that word for their &quot;long-term committed relationships with one another&quot;, would you consider that proper?<\/p>\n<p>Dear Mr. Santorum: Yes, you can pass a Constitutional Amendment to define something as anything you want, legally.  We could have a Constitutional Amendment that defines White as the only legally recognized humans, Christianity as the only legally recognized religion, and Men as the only legally recognized voters.  Would that make it right?<\/p>\n<p>Dolts. #ddtb<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n<p style='margin-bottom:5px;'><strong>Embedded Link<\/strong><\/p>\n<div style='height:120px;width:120px;overflow:hidden;float:left;margin-top:0px;padding-top:0px;margin-right:10px;vertical-align:top;text-align:center;clear:both;'>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img style='max-width:none;' src='http:\/\/images0-focus-opensocial.googleusercontent.com\/gadgets\/proxy?container=focus&#038;gadget=a&#038;resize_h=100&#038;url=http%3A%2F%2Fthenewcivilrightsmovement.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F01%2Fgingrich-catholic-gay-marriage.jpg' border='0' \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href='http:\/\/thenewcivilrightsmovement.com\/newt-gingrich-says-married-gay-couples-are-only-friends-at-gop-debate\/politics\/2012\/01\/07\/32899'>Newt Gingrich Says Married Gay Couples Are Only \u201cFriends\u201d At GOP Debate<\/a><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tAt the GOP debate in Manchester, New Hampshire, Newt Gingrich called married gay couples \u201cfriends,\u201d claiming there is \u201csecular bigotry\u201d against the Catholic Church.\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dear Mr. Gingrich: I realize your own sense of what marriage consists of may be different than most, and it&#39;s nice that you attribute a bit more to gay relationships than just depraved lust, but dismissing married gay couples as just &quot;friends&quot; is demeaning and arrogant &#8230; just what we&#39;ve come to expect from you. &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/01\/08\/the-gop-candidates-and-gay-marriage.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;The GOP candidates and Gay Marriage&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,99,25,718],"tags":[107],"class_list":["post-25209","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-elections-2012","category-gay-stuff","category-marriage-equality","tag-ddtb"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":25770,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/01\/27\/eek-paganism-is-rising-hide-the-children-ma.html","url_meta":{"origin":25209,"position":0},"title":"Eek! 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