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All it does is get folks on either side of the of the debate into an ideologically-driven scientific debate, which makes for bad science and worse policy.<\/p>\n<p>The point is one of <i>human rights.<\/i>  On what basis can one justify discrimination against a group of people?  Whether they choose to be in that group (as with a religion) or are bound there through fate (as with skin color), if you don&#39;t have a sound, rational basis for discriminatory policy (and &quot;My holy book says it&#39;s icky&quot; doesn&#39;t quality, since there are no end to holy books that say one thing or another is icky), then it shouldn&#39;t be part of the law. #ddtb<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n<p style='margin-bottom:5px;'><strong>Embedded Link<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href='http:\/\/lefthemispheres.blogspot.com\/2012\/01\/irrelevance-of-choosing-to-be-gay.html'>Left Hemispheres: The Irrelevance of Choosing to Be Gay<\/a><\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>While I disagree with the author in some particulars, his core thesis is sound: the debate over whether homosexuality is a &quot;choice&quot; or a &quot;pre-disposition&quot; or an &quot;orientation&quot; or a &quot;genetic slam-dunk compulsion&quot; is or should be irrelevant to the question of gay rights in our society. All it does is get folks on either &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/01\/24\/its-about-rights-not-about-science.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;It&#39;s about rights, not about science&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,70,25,8],"tags":[107],"class_list":["post-25689","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-health-science","category-gay-stuff","category-zt-pc","tag-ddtb"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":10187,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2006\/08\/16\/a_planet_by_any.html","url_meta":{"origin":25689,"position":0},"title":"A planet by any other name &#8230;","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 16-Aug-06 10:10am","format":false,"excerpt":"I guess what bugs me most about the whole International Astronomical Union debate over \"what's a planet\" and the current proposed plan that would expand the current number to...","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Science &amp; Nature&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Science &amp; Nature","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/science"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/images\/planets.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":7867,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2005\/08\/03\/sigh_4.html","url_meta":{"origin":25689,"position":1},"title":"Sigh","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 3-Aug-05 4:23pm","format":false,"excerpt":"I'm not sure that I would have expected anything else, but it's still deeply irksome that Bush is such a dolt about this: Transcript of the roundtable interview of President...","rel":"","context":"In &quot;School Daze&quot;","block_context":{"text":"School Daze","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/school-daze"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":27200,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/03\/22\/rick-santorum-is-a-dolt-unscientific-polling-edition.html","url_meta":{"origin":25689,"position":2},"title":"Rick Santorum is a Dolt (Unscientific Polling Edition)","author":"***Dave","date":"Thu 22-Mar-12 12:32pm","format":false,"excerpt":"While it seems increasingly unlikely that Rick Santorum will not get the GOP nod for president (for which I give thanks unto God), his suprisingly successful campaign will probably mean we get to hear from him for years to come. \u00a0Which, if it's like his column at the Philadelphia Inquirer,\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Dolts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Dolts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/dolts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/ricksantorum-300x188.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":129565,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/01\/29\/the-republican-non-donald-debate.html","url_meta":{"origin":25689,"position":3},"title":"The Republican Non-Donald Debate","author":"***Dave","date":"Fri 29-Jan-16 12:42am","format":false,"excerpt":"My mom and I watched the GOP debate -- or about twenty minutes of it -- on the DVR this evening. 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