{"id":25791,"date":"2012-01-29T00:45:38","date_gmt":"2012-01-29T07:45:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/01\/29\/pee-in-a-cup-for-the-goose-is-pee-in-a-cup-for-the-gander.html"},"modified":"2012-02-01T13:35:47","modified_gmt":"2012-02-01T20:35:47","slug":"pee-in-a-cup-for-the-goose-is-pee-in-a-cup-for-the-gander","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/01\/29\/pee-in-a-cup-for-the-goose-is-pee-in-a-cup-for-the-gander.html","title":{"rendered":"Pee in a cup for the goose is pee in a cup for the gander"},"content":{"rendered":"

Of course, I'm not sure what the point of drug testing for welfare recipients really is about. Is the idea that welfare recipients will eschew drugs? Gosh, if it were that simple, I'd suspect everyone would do it. Is the point to avoid folks pulling welfare checks who might test positive for drugs? Well, testing positive isn't a good thing, but starving a person (and family) who tests positive doesn't seem like the right thing to do, either.<\/p>\n

I do like the general pushback of drug testing legislators, if legislators are going to require anyone to take drug tests. #ddtb<\/p>\n

Reshared post from +Keith Barrett<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n

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Of course, I'm not sure what the point of drug testing for welfare recipients really is about. Is the idea that welfare recipients will eschew drugs? Gosh, if it were that simple, I'd suspect everyone would do it. Is the point to avoid folks pulling welfare checks who might test positive for drugs? 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