{"id":25847,"date":"2012-01-31T09:34:26","date_gmt":"2012-01-31T16:34:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/01\/31\/challenging-the-initiative-process.html"},"modified":"2012-02-01T15:31:45","modified_gmt":"2012-02-01T22:31:45","slug":"challenging-the-initiative-process","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/01\/31\/challenging-the-initiative-process.html","title":{"rendered":"Challenging the initiative process"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>TABOR is a pretty awful law here in Colorado, for a variety of reasons.  It&#39;s also a good example of the dangers of the initiative processes, which tends to write &#8230; well, bad laws (ones that don&#39;t pass constitutional review, ones that have bad unintentional consequences, etc.).<\/p>\n<p>That said, I find the initiative process &#8212; part of the Progressive movement (along with direct election of Senators) &#8212; to be of value.  I wouldn&#39;t see a somewhat higher bar to getting something on the ballot here in the state, but I would hate to see it go away altogether.  It&#39;s a useful check on state legislatures that may &#8212; for political or pecuniary reasons &#8212; be unwilling to do &quot;the will of the people.&quot;  #ddtb<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n<p style='margin-bottom:5px;'><strong>Embedded Link<\/strong><\/p>\n<div style='height:120px;width:120px;overflow:hidden;float:left;margin-top:0px;padding-top:0px;margin-right:10px;vertical-align:top;text-align:center;clear:both;'>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img style='max-width:none;' src='http:\/\/images0-focus-opensocial.googleusercontent.com\/gadgets\/proxy?container=focus&#038;gadget=a&#038;resize_h=100&#038;url=http%3A%2F%2Fgraphics8.nytimes.com%2Fimages%2F2012%2F01%2F31%2Fus%2FTABOR-1%2FTABOR-1-articleLarge.jpg' border='0' \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href='http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2012\/01\/31\/us\/legal-challenge-to-colorados-tabor-amendment.html?seid=auto&#038;smid=tw-nytimesnational&#038;pagewanted=all'>Legal Challenge to Colorado\u2019s Tabor Amendment<\/a><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tA lawsuit is challenging the taxpayer-controlled state budgeting process and the assumption that voters always know best.\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>TABOR is a pretty awful law here in Colorado, for a variety of reasons. It&#39;s also a good example of the dangers of the initiative processes, which tends to write &#8230; well, bad laws (ones that don&#39;t pass constitutional review, ones that have bad unintentional consequences, etc.). That said, I find the initiative process &#8212; &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/01\/31\/challenging-the-initiative-process.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Challenging the initiative process&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,9],"tags":[107],"class_list":["post-25847","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-politics-law","tag-ddtb"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":153528,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2021\/03\/07\/still-chatty-after-all-these-years.html","url_meta":{"origin":25847,"position":0},"title":"Still chatty after all these years","author":"***Dave","date":"Sun 7-Mar-21 12:30am","format":false,"excerpt":"The Stupid Evil Podcast is ... well, it was fun.","rel":"","context":"In &quot;DDtB-SEB Podcasts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"DDtB-SEB Podcasts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/podcasts\/ddtb-seb-podcasts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/still-chatty-after-all-these-years-f7WYuWsxxqQ.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/still-chatty-after-all-these-years-f7WYuWsxxqQ.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/still-chatty-after-all-these-years-f7WYuWsxxqQ.jpg?resize=525%2C300&ssl=1 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/still-chatty-after-all-these-years-f7WYuWsxxqQ.jpg?resize=700%2C400&ssl=1 2x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/still-chatty-after-all-these-years-f7WYuWsxxqQ.jpg?resize=1050%2C600&ssl=1 3x"},"classes":[]},{"id":136275,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2018\/05\/06\/and-lo-there-shall-come-another-seb-podcast.html","url_meta":{"origin":25847,"position":1},"title":"And, lo, there shall come another SEB Podcast!","author":"***Dave","date":"Sun 6-May-18 2:56pm","format":false,"excerpt":"It's been an astonishing three years since +Les Jenkins and I did one of his Stupid Evil Bastard podcasts (the biggest takeaway from which was that it had been three years since we previously did it, and that was clearly way, way too long). 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