{"id":26439,"date":"2012-02-16T09:34:20","date_gmt":"2012-02-16T16:34:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/02\/16\/being-the-adults-in-the-room-regarding-santorum.html"},"modified":"2012-02-17T05:53:49","modified_gmt":"2012-02-17T12:53:49","slug":"being-the-adults-in-the-room-regarding-santorum","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/02\/16\/being-the-adults-in-the-room-regarding-santorum.html","title":{"rendered":"Being the adults in the room regarding Santorum"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&quot;Operation: Hilarity&quot; &#8211;the Daily Kos idea for progressives to vote for Rick Santorum in open primaries (like Michigan), with an idea to continuing the existing disarray in the GOP, is a really bad idea.<\/p>\n<p>1. Playing with the already-battered democratic process is not what we want to be doing.  Have there been cases of groups doing this in the past (most particularly similar GOP &quot;dirty tricks&quot;)? Sure. Does that mean Dems need to, or should be, doing the same thing?  No.  Plus, it&#39;s a great way to justify closing primaries in the future.<\/p>\n<p>If you&#39;re going to vote for someone in an open primary, make it someone that you would like to see in office (at least preference to the others in that party&#39;s fold), not to make trouble or make a mockery of the system.<\/p>\n<p>2. I don&#39;t even want to <i>pretend<\/i> that Santorum could be the actual candidate, or could actually win.  That&#39;s a really, really scary prospect.  Voting for him, even with the idea that it will weaken the GOP, is like playing with dynamite.<\/p>\n<p>3. As much fun as it is to see the GOP in disarray, doing anything to make Santorum and his wretched social ideas look <i>more<\/i> legitimate only encourages the folks who feel the same way to be more vocal and active about it.  If it&#39;s the GOP doing it, that&#39;s one thing.  But for <i>progressives<\/i> to boost a homophobic Christianist like Santorum to greater prominence only lends comfort to folks with anti-progressive values.<\/p>\n<p>A bad idea, no matter how funny or clever it sounds.  #ddtb<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reshared post from +<a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/106790394183446968954'>David Badash<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Progressives have to be the adults in the room.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n<p style='margin-bottom:5px;'><strong>Embedded Link<\/strong><\/p>\n<div style='height:120px;width:120px;overflow:hidden;float:left;margin-top:0px;padding-top:0px;margin-right:10px;vertical-align:top;text-align:center;clear:both;'>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img style='max-width:none;' src='http:\/\/images0-focus-opensocial.googleusercontent.com\/gadgets\/proxy?container=focus&#038;gadget=a&#038;resize_h=100&#038;url=http%3A%2F%2Fthenewcivilrightsmovement.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F02%2Fdolittle.jpg' border='0' \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href='http:\/\/thenewcivilrightsmovement.com\/daily-kos-has-a-really-bad-idea-vote-for-santorum\/politics\/2012\/02\/16\/34808'>Daily Kos Has A Really Bad Idea: Vote For Santorum.<\/a><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tSubverting a democracy already pushed and pulled into something stranger than a Doctor Dolittle Push-Me\u2013Pull-You is just too much to stand for.\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&quot;Operation: Hilarity&quot; &#8211;the Daily Kos idea for progressives to vote for Rick Santorum in open primaries (like Michigan), with an idea to continuing the existing disarray in the GOP, is a really bad idea. 1. Playing with the already-battered democratic process is not what we want to be doing. Have there been cases of groups &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/02\/16\/being-the-adults-in-the-room-regarding-santorum.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Being the adults in the room regarding Santorum&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,99],"tags":[107],"class_list":["post-26439","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-elections-2012","tag-ddtb"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":27074,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/03\/13\/thank-you-rick-for-clarifying-matters.html","url_meta":{"origin":26439,"position":0},"title":"Thank you, Rick, for clarifying matters","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 13-Mar-12 7:23am","format":false,"excerpt":"Every time I get ticked off at Romney being a favorite of Wall Street, of K Street Lobbyists, or anything else like that, all I have to do is see what Rick Santorum has said on that day and it makes it crystal clear that he's by far the more\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":27346,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/04\/10\/santorum-quits-the-race.html","url_meta":{"origin":26439,"position":1},"title":"Santorum quits the race","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 10-Apr-12 3:44pm","format":false,"excerpt":"While having Santorum as the GOP candidate would make it more likely, in my opinion, for Obama to win the White House, it would still hold a finite chance of Santorum becoming President ... so this news cheers me immensely. #ddtb Embedded Link Santorum drops out of 2012 race GETTYSBURG,\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":25072,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/01\/04\/rick-perry-lost-because-of-vast-democrat-conspiracy.html","url_meta":{"origin":26439,"position":2},"title":"Rick Perry Lost Because of Vast Democrat Conspiracy!","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 4-Jan-12 2:51pm","format":false,"excerpt":"It's true! 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