{"id":26488,"date":"2012-02-17T11:13:54","date_gmt":"2012-02-17T18:13:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/02\/17\/why-look-justice-can-be-served-in-civilian-courts-after-all.html"},"modified":"2012-02-21T20:37:51","modified_gmt":"2012-02-22T03:37:51","slug":"why-look-justice-can-be-served-in-civilian-courts-after-all","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/02\/17\/why-look-justice-can-be-served-in-civilian-courts-after-all.html","title":{"rendered":"Why, look &#8212; justice can be served in civilian courts after all"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>After the long litany of complaints from conservatives that anyone accused of terrorism has to be thrown into a military clink and handled by dubiously legal (and not terribly effective) military tribunals &#8212; well, lookie here, we&#39;ve got a terrorist who was tried, convicted, and is now serving a life term, all through a <i>civilian<\/i> court. Just like the Founders intended. Amazing!  #ddtb<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reshared post from +<a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/116234824425478706959'>Talking Points Memo<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Radio silence from conservative critics who said the civilian court system couldn&#39;t handle the &#39;Underwear Bomber&#39;:<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n<p style='margin-bottom:5px;'><strong>Embedded Link<\/strong><\/p>\n<div style='height:120px;width:120px;overflow:hidden;float:left;margin-top:0px;padding-top:0px;margin-right:10px;vertical-align:top;text-align:center;clear:both;'>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img style='max-width:none;' src='http:\/\/images0-focus-opensocial.googleusercontent.com\/gadgets\/proxy?container=focus&#038;gadget=a&#038;resize_h=100&#038;url=http%3A%2F%2Ftalkingpointsmemo.com%2Fassets_c%2F2012%2F02%2Funderwear-bomber-flowers-cropped-proto-custom_6.jpg' border='0' \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href='http:\/\/tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com\/2012\/02\/conservatives_quiet_after_saying_civilian_system_couldnt_handle_underwear_bomber.php?ref=fpnewsfeed'>Conservatives Quiet After Saying Civilian System Couldn\u2019t Handle Underwear Bomber<\/a><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tUmar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the so-called \u201cunderwear bomber,\u201d was sentenced to life in prison Thursday following his trial in federal court. Two years ago, Republicans insisted trying Abdulmutallab in &#8230;\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>After the long litany of complaints from conservatives that anyone accused of terrorism has to be thrown into a military clink and handled by dubiously legal (and not terribly effective) military tribunals &#8212; well, lookie here, we&#39;ve got a terrorist who was tried, convicted, and is now serving a life term, all through a civilian &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/02\/17\/why-look-justice-can-be-served-in-civilian-courts-after-all.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Why, look &#8212; justice can be served in civilian courts after all&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,17],"tags":[107],"class_list":["post-26488","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-homeland-security","tag-ddtb"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":28026,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/05\/29\/theyre-all-militants.html","url_meta":{"origin":26488,"position":0},"title":"They&#39;re all militants","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 29-May-12 9:52am","format":false,"excerpt":"It's easy to reduce civilian casualties from drone attacks: just identify, by definition, anyone (or at least \"any male of military age\") where a drone hits as a \"militant.\" Could be a relative. 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