{"id":26867,"date":"2012-03-06T07:25:51","date_gmt":"2012-03-06T14:25:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/03\/06\/when-arguments-get-loud.html"},"modified":"2012-03-08T10:21:38","modified_gmt":"2012-03-08T17:21:38","slug":"when-arguments-get-loud","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/03\/06\/when-arguments-get-loud.html","title":{"rendered":"When arguments get loud"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><i>&quot;We are most likely to get angry and excited in our opposition to some idea when we ourselves are not quite certain of our own position, and are inwardly tempted to take the other side.&quot;<\/i> &#8212; Thomas Mann<\/p>\n<p> #ddtb<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n<p style='margin-bottom:5px;'><strong>Embedded Link<\/strong><\/p>\n<div style='height:120px;width:120px;overflow:hidden;float:left;margin-top:0px;padding-top:0px;margin-right:10px;vertical-align:top;text-align:center;clear:both;'>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img style='max-width:none;' src='http:\/\/images0-focus-opensocial.googleusercontent.com\/gadgets\/proxy?container=focus&#038;gadget=a&#038;resize_h=100&#038;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwist.info%2Fwp%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F10%2Fwist_title_lg.gif' border='0' \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href='http:\/\/wist.info\/mann-thomas\/17470\/'>Mann, Thomas &#8211;   Buddenbrooks, 8.2 (1902) [tr. Lowe-Porter (1924)] | WIST Quotations<\/a><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tWe are most likely to get angry and excited in our opposition to some idea when we ourselves are not quite certain of our own position, and are inwardly tempted\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&quot;We are most likely to get angry and excited in our opposition to some idea when we ourselves are not quite certain of our own position, and are inwardly tempted to take the other side.&quot; &#8212; Thomas Mann #ddtb Embedded Link Mann, Thomas &#8211; Buddenbrooks, 8.2 (1902) [tr. 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