{"id":27307,"date":"2012-04-02T21:30:12","date_gmt":"2012-04-03T03:30:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/04\/02\/why-were-predictions-about-the-scotus-hearing-of-the-ppaca-so-wrong.html"},"modified":"2012-04-02T21:30:12","modified_gmt":"2012-04-03T03:30:12","slug":"why-were-predictions-about-the-scotus-hearing-of-the-ppaca-so-wrong","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/04\/02\/why-were-predictions-about-the-scotus-hearing-of-the-ppaca-so-wrong.html","title":{"rendered":"Why were predictions about the SCOTUS hearing of the PPACA so wrong?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>With the proviso that we don&#39;t yet actually know how they will vote, Steve Benan notes:<\/p>\n<p><i>&quot;When analysts expected a 7-2 or 8-1 ruling in support of the administration, they weren&#39;t just picking numbers out of thin air; this was a reasonable estimate based on everything we know about the court, the law, and these justices.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>So why do the predictions look ridiculous? Because the legal community &#8212; analysts, scholars, journalists, attorneys, former clerks &#8212; appear to have wildly overestimated the extent to which conservative justices give a damn about precedent, the facts of the case, the court&#39;s traditions and respect for restraint, lower-court rulings, the integrity of the institution, and the justices&#39; avoidance of activism.<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Pretty much.  #ddtb<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n<p style='margin-bottom:5px;'><strong>Embedded Link<\/strong><\/p>\n<div style='height:120px;width:120px;overflow:hidden;float:left;margin-top:0px;padding-top:0px;margin-right:10px;vertical-align:top;text-align:center;clear:both;'>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img style='max-width:none;' src='http:\/\/images0-focus-opensocial.googleusercontent.com\/gadgets\/proxy?container=focus&#038;gadget=a&#038;resize_h=100&#038;url=http%3A%2F%2Fm.static.newsvine.com%2Fservista%2Fimagesizer%3Ffile%3Dsteve-benen725722A9-BFCE-AC71-8644-7FD718577F41.jpg%26width%3Dauth' border='0' \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href='http:\/\/maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com\/_news\/2012\/04\/02\/10985848-predictions-vs-expectations-at-the-supreme-court'>Predictions vs. expectations at the Supreme Court<\/a><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tThe week after the health care drama at the Supreme Court, some on the right are so confident about the outcome, they see no reason to delay the taunting. They&#39;ll engage in some pre-decision chest-thu&#8230;\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>With the proviso that we don&#39;t yet actually know how they will vote, Steve Benan notes: &quot;When analysts expected a 7-2 or 8-1 ruling in support of the administration, they weren&#39;t just picking numbers out of thin air; this was a reasonable estimate based on everything we know about the court, the law, and these &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/04\/02\/why-were-predictions-about-the-scotus-hearing-of-the-ppaca-so-wrong.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Why were predictions about the SCOTUS hearing of the PPACA so wrong?&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106],"tags":[107],"class_list":["post-27307","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","tag-ddtb"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":23544,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/11\/07\/stop-me-if-youve-heard-this-electoral-argument-before.html","url_meta":{"origin":27307,"position":0},"title":"Stop me if you&#39;ve heard this electoral argument before","author":"***Dave","date":"Mon 7-Nov-11 8:27pm","format":false,"excerpt":"One consistent that has cropped up over every presidential election for the past decade or three has been the threat that The Next President Will Select Supreme Court Justices. 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