{"id":28273,"date":"2012-06-14T06:52:51","date_gmt":"2012-06-14T12:52:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/06\/14\/the-deadliness-of-energy.html"},"modified":"2012-06-14T06:52:51","modified_gmt":"2012-06-14T12:52:51","slug":"the-deadliness-of-energy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/06\/14\/the-deadliness-of-energy.html","title":{"rendered":"The Deadliness of Energy"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In addition to the cost of extraction and production, there are a variety of externalities to different types of energy. Environmental impact is one. Deadliness is another. \u00a0And, of course, externalities are, by definitions, costs that are paid by others than the folks involved in the immediate profit and loss.<\/p>\n<p>Externalities are difficult to gauge sometimes. But to ignore them and simply let society pick up the tab, one way or the other, for them is foolish.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reshared post from +<a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/102356721871221463140'>George Wiman<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>That Forbes Magazine (motto: &quot;Environmentalists are an obstacle to be maneuvered around&quot;) has published this is remarkable. But they&#39;re quite right: coal is an environmental disaster with a huge deathprint from every scoop gouged out of the Earth to every mercury atom consumed in tuna sandwiches. And everything in between. Candidates must pander to coal-producing states so I don&#39;t know how to get to a post-coal economy. Or post-carbon generally. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/jamesconca\/2012\/06\/10\/energys-deathprint-a-price-always-paid\/\" >http:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/jamesconca\/2012\/06\/10\/energys-deathprint-a-price-always-paid\/<\/a> h\/t <span class=\"proflinkWrapper\"><span class=\"proflinkPrefix\">+<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/106458254878492262851\" class=\"proflink\" oid=\"106458254878492262851\">Nick F<\/a><\/span>\u00a0<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n<p style='margin-bottom:5px;'><strong>Embedded Link<\/strong><\/p>\n<div style='height:120px;width:120px;overflow:hidden;float:left;margin-top:0px;padding-top:0px;margin-right:10px;vertical-align:top;text-align:center;clear:both;'>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img style='max-width:none;' src='https:\/\/images0-focus-opensocial.googleusercontent.com\/gadgets\/proxy?container=focus&#038;gadget=a&#038;resize_h=100&#038;url=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs-images.forbes.com%2Fthumbnails%2Fblog_2163%2Fpt_2163_188_o.jpg%3Ft%3D1339437182' border='0' \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href='http:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/jamesconca\/2012\/06\/10\/energys-deathprint-a-price-always-paid\/'>How Deadly Is Your Kilowatt? We Rank The Killer Energy Sources &#8211; Forbes<\/a><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tCoal is by far the biggest killer. Nuclear is the safest energy source.\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'> <strong>Google+:<\/strong> <a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/101083456815352083930\/posts\/Q5RytvrpPyd' target='_new'>View post on Google+<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In addition to the cost of extraction and production, there are a variety of externalities to different types of energy. Environmental impact is one. Deadliness is another. \u00a0And, of course, externalities are, by definitions, costs that are paid by others than the folks involved in the immediate profit and loss. Externalities are difficult to gauge &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/06\/14\/the-deadliness-of-energy.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;The Deadliness of Energy&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-28273","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":41879,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/04\/30\/the-supreme-court-deals-another-jab-at-coal.html","url_meta":{"origin":28273,"position":0},"title":"The Supreme Court deals another jab at coal","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 30-Apr-14 4:53pm","format":false,"excerpt":"It backed, 6-2, an EPA rule that basically said, \"Hey, your pollution doesn't stop at the state line.\" \u00a0I know, crazy idea, right?Coal-power state reps were ticked off that this will add to the cost of coal-fired energy, because the plants will have to add further scrubbers. 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Shocked, do you hear?","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 26-Mar-02 3:16pm","format":false,"excerpt":"The White House finally knucked under to a court order on providing documents about who met with Administration officials during planning for Bush energy policy. 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Though the Obama Administration put in additional regulation on coal-firing plants and\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":32479,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/02\/09\/knocking-nukes.html","url_meta":{"origin":28273,"position":4},"title":"Knocking Nukes","author":"***Dave","date":"Sat 9-Feb-13 1:07am","format":false,"excerpt":"A pretty decent article on the up sides of nuclear energy, with one serious caveat: \u00a0humans are dumb. \u00a0Given a chance, sooner or later, humans will screw up, trip over a box, run in to a wall, forget to turn on (or off) the stove, etc. To say that the\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":132075,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/11\/20\/sun-and-coal-and-the-united-kingdom.html","url_meta":{"origin":28273,"position":5},"title":"Sun and Coal and the United Kingdom","author":"***Dave","date":"Sun 20-Nov-16 6:18pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Britain is almost synonymous with coal (\"coals to Newcastle!\"), and with cloudy, gloomy days.And yet, somehow, they've managed to get to a point where they're generating more power from solar than from coal, at least this summer.That's inspiring. 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