{"id":28375,"date":"2012-06-19T13:21:08","date_gmt":"2012-06-19T19:21:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/06\/19\/i-dunno-is-this-more-kafkaesque-or-more-orwellian.html"},"modified":"2012-06-19T13:21:08","modified_gmt":"2012-06-19T19:21:08","slug":"i-dunno-is-this-more-kafkaesque-or-more-orwellian","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/06\/19\/i-dunno-is-this-more-kafkaesque-or-more-orwellian.html","title":{"rendered":"I dunno &#8230; is this more Kafkaesque or more Orwellian?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The NSA claims it can&#39;t say how many Americans have been spied on because &#8230; it would violate their privacy? \u00a0And, besides, it&#39;s too difficult for them to count it?<\/p>\n<p>Oh, well &#8212; as long as we&#39;re assured the NSA\u00a0is always the good guys, what&#39;s to worry?<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n<p style='margin-bottom:5px;'><strong>Embedded Link<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href='http:\/\/www.wired.com\/dangerroom\/2012\/06\/nsa-spied\/?utm_source=googleplus&#038;utm_medium=socialmedia&#038;utm_campaign=googleplusclickthru'>NSA: It Would Violate Your Privacy to Say if We Spied on You | Danger Room | Wired.com<\/a><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tThe surveillance experts at the National Security Agency won&#39;t tell two powerful United States Senators how many Americans have had their communications picked up by the agency as part of its sweeping&#8230;\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'> <strong>Google+:<\/strong> <a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/101083456815352083930\/posts\/WiLXKhRnuU1' target='_new'>View post on Google+<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The NSA claims it can&#39;t say how many Americans have been spied on because &#8230; it would violate their privacy? \u00a0And, besides, it&#39;s too difficult for them to count it? Oh, well &#8212; as long as we&#39;re assured the NSA\u00a0is always the good guys, what&#39;s to worry? Embedded Link NSA: It Would Violate Your Privacy &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/06\/19\/i-dunno-is-this-more-kafkaesque-or-more-orwellian.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;I dunno &#8230; is this more Kafkaesque or more Orwellian?&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-28375","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":43480,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/07\/11\/on-the-systemic-problem-of-the-nsa.html","url_meta":{"origin":28375,"position":0},"title":"On the systemic problem of the NSA","author":"***Dave","date":"Fri 11-Jul-14 2:25pm","format":false,"excerpt":"It has a purpose, one that is arguably laudable. 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