{"id":28398,"date":"2012-06-21T11:21:28","date_gmt":"2012-06-21T17:21:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/06\/21\/refusing-to-defend-a-law.html"},"modified":"2014-11-05T14:36:03","modified_gmt":"2014-11-05T21:36:03","slug":"refusing-to-defend-a-law","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/06\/21\/refusing-to-defend-a-law.html","title":{"rendered":"Refusing to defend a law"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This is one of those legal\/ethical conundra I have very mixed feelings about. \u00a0If you &#8212; as a chief governmental executive or as a government attorney &#8212; feel that a particular law is unconstitutional, do you still have an ethical requirement to protect it?\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>On the one hand, because I admittedly support their position (considering such a ban to be a violation of equal protection laws), my inclination is to get up and cheer.<\/p>\n<p>But the thing is, this sort of mess cuts in all directions &#8212; one can imagine both state attorneys who would not defend a law banning gay marriage, and state attorneys who would not defend a law preventing discrimination against gays. \u00a0Calling one the &quot;good guys&quot; and the other the &quot;bad guys&quot; misses the point, and turns a system of laws into a system of personal preferences.<\/p>\n<p>It also gets uncomfortably close to the question of <i>religious<\/i> dissent and conscience-based exemptions from laws. \u00a0After all, if a state attorney can ethically decline to defend a state law she thinks is unconstitutional because she swore an oath to defend the constitution, then why can&#39;t a pharmacist ethically decline to provide a prescription for something she feels is against her personal religious oaths? \u00a0That&#39;s a slippery slope that leads in too few steps to a complete breakdown of law and order, if not society.<\/p>\n<p>And it&#39;s true on the national level as well. \u00a0While on one level I&#39;m pleased with the Obama administration&#39;s decision not to defend DOMA in court, I acknowledge I would feel very differently if it were a Romney administration deciding not to defend ACA or the Civil Rights Act in court.<\/p>\n<p>I don&#39;t have an easy answer here, just a lot of thoughts. (h\/t <span class=\"proflinkWrapper\"><span class=\"proflinkPrefix\">+<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/105854477836714634695\" class=\"proflink\" oid=\"105854477836714634695\">Jim Feig<\/a><\/span>)<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n<p style='margin-bottom:5px;'><strong>Embedded Link<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href='http:\/\/www.msnbc.msn.com\/id\/47903042\/ns\/us_news-life\/t\/ill-prosecutors-refuse-defend-gay-marriage-ban\/'>Ill. prosecutors refuse to defend gay marriage ban<\/a><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tTwenty-five Illinois couples were prepared for a long legal fight when they joined lawsuits challenging the state&#39;s ban on gay marriage. Turns out they won&#39;t get one \u2014 at least not from the attorneys &#8230;\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'> <strong>Google+:<\/strong> <a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/101083456815352083930\/posts\/FQLctRaynRo' target='_new'>View post on Google+<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This is one of those legal\/ethical conundra I have very mixed feelings about. \u00a0If you &#8212; as a chief governmental executive or as a government attorney &#8212; feel that a particular law is unconstitutional, do you still have an ethical requirement to protect it?\u00a0 On the one hand, because I admittedly support their position (considering &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/06\/21\/refusing-to-defend-a-law.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Refusing to defend a law&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,718],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-28398","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-marriage-equality"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":43239,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/06\/24\/defense-attorneys-defend-thats-their-job.html","url_meta":{"origin":28398,"position":0},"title":"Defense attorneys DEFEND. 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