{"id":28399,"date":"2012-06-21T12:53:11","date_gmt":"2012-06-21T18:53:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/06\/21\/oppressed-and-oppressors.html"},"modified":"2012-06-21T12:53:11","modified_gmt":"2012-06-21T18:53:11","slug":"oppressed-and-oppressors","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/06\/21\/oppressed-and-oppressors.html","title":{"rendered":"Oppressed and oppressors"},"content":{"rendered":"

It is a sad fact that those who have once been oppressed — bitterly, justly, profoundly oppressed — do not seem to be immune to the human tendency to make things about "Us vs Them" and to make sure that "Us" don't have to treat "Them" as equals.<\/p>\n

Thus the irony of the Southern Baptist Convention — a group with a long history of racism and support of the Southern slave and Jim Crow culture — has just elected its first black president — and at the same time passed a resolution denying\u00a0that gays could legitimately be seeking protection of their "civil rights".<\/p>\n

Rev. Dwight McKissic, pastor of Cornerstone Baptist Church in Arlington, Texas, was one of the crafters of that resolution.<\/p>\n

'McKissic, who is black, said it was \u201can unfair comparison\u201d for gays to equate same-sex marriage with civil rights because there is not incontrovertible scientific evidence that homosexuality is an innate characteristic, like skin color. \u201cThey\u2019re equating their sin with my skin,\u201d he said.'<\/i><\/p>\n

Obviously Rev. McKissic doesn't think _religion_\u00a0is a civil right, either, since it is not "an innate characteristic" and most faithful\u00a0consider the beliefs and activities of other denominations or faiths to be sinful.<\/p>\n

McKissic went on: "When homosexuals have spent over 200 years in slavery, when homosexuals have been legally defined as three-fifths human, when homosexuals have been denied the right to vote and own property because they are homosexuals, then we can begin a discussion of parallels [between the civil rights and gay rights movements]."<\/i><\/p>\n

I guess thousands<\/i> of years of being legally killed, imprisoned, reviled, fired from jobs, denied the opportunity\u00a0to live openly with their loved ones, and in fact of being open about themselves, doesn't count.<\/p>\n

Rev. McKissic ought to check out that beam in his eye — it's got to be really irritating.\u00a0<\/p>\n

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\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tOn Tuesday, the Southern Baptists elected their first African-American president after a long history of racism. On Wednesday, they found a new target: gay people.\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n

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Help! We're being oppressed!" (Bundy Edition)","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 25-May-16 4:12pm","format":false,"excerpt":"The Bundy Brethren are shocked, shocked, that they don't have full exercise of their constitutional rights while behind bars in county jail, awaiting trial. Their 2nd Amendment rights are being fully repressed, if you can believe it. 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