{"id":2902,"date":"2002-09-05T15:41:27","date_gmt":"2002-09-05T20:41:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/?p=2902"},"modified":"2002-09-05T15:41:27","modified_gmt":"2002-09-05T20:41:27","slug":"tangled_web","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2002\/09\/05\/tangled_web.html","title":{"rendered":"Tangled Web"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/\">W3C <\/a>is the group that defines the standards that make the web &#8212; particularly standards such as HTML, XHTML, XML, and other stuff like that.  Its <a href=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/Consortium\/Member\/List\">membership <\/a>reads like a Who&#8217;s Who of government agencies and hi-tech companies.<\/p>\n<p>Which is why it&#8217;s a little embarrassing when someone actually goes out and sees how W3C standards-compliant the membership&#8217;s web pages are, and discovers <a href=\"http:\/\/msnbc-cnet.com.com\/2100-1023-956778.html?type=pt&#038;part=msnbc&#038;tag=alert&#038;form=feed&#038;subj=cnetnews\">they really aren&#8217;t, very<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"block\">The second biannual survey, conducted by Helsinki, Finland-based Web designer Marko Karppinen showed that only 21, or 4.6 percent, of 454 member sites Karppinen could access passed the W3C&#8217;s own HTML validator, which tests for grammatically correct HTML.<\/p>\n<p>Now Micro$oft I can understand, because, hey, Bill never met a standard set by a group that he didn&#8217;t want to set differently himself &#8212; even if he was part of the group.  But for the rest of them &#8230; well, bad show.<\/p>\n<p>The main reason for the violations tends to be wanting to tweak the standard tags and structures to do cool things, to make HTML behave in non-standard but still (usually) workable ways.  They can get away with it because the browsers that are used aren&#8217;t always standard, either &#8212; and with IE dominating the browser world (85-95% of the market), it makes sense (and sometimes is necessary) to do things in a non-standard (i.e., Micro$oft) way.<\/p>\n<p>Funny thing, that.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The W3C is the group that defines the standards that make the web &#8212; particularly standards such as HTML, XHTML, XML, and other stuff like that. 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