{"id":30056,"date":"2012-09-01T08:25:15","date_gmt":"2012-09-01T14:25:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/09\/01\/living-in-different-worlds-of-factiness.html"},"modified":"2012-09-01T08:25:15","modified_gmt":"2012-09-01T14:25:15","slug":"living-in-different-worlds-of-factiness","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/09\/01\/living-in-different-worlds-of-factiness.html","title":{"rendered":"Living in different worlds of factiness"},"content":{"rendered":"

One thing the writer here leaves out is the Big Lie theory — that if you simply state something that is untrue boldly, loudly, and frequently enough, then people who are already inclined to thing it could be true will buy it — because, of course, the people on My Side would never, ever lie.<\/i><\/p>\n

This is not solely a R vs D thing — though, in my own (possibly biased) way, I think it's been far more blatant on the Right with everyone from Limbaugh to Hannity to Bachmann simply saying things that are untrue, freeing up Ryan and Romney to do the same because "Well, I already heard that on Fox & Friends this morning, so it must be so."<\/p>\n

The best thing I can personally<\/i> suggest for individuals, when getting into these "UH-HUH!" "NUH-UH!" arguments is do at least a bit of research. Don't rely on the pundit's site what points to an op-ed that (maybe) refers to speech that some gave somewhere as "proof." Try to find some actual facts and reporting and statistics on the matter — and look for where the assertion is (or isn't) in line with the claim you're making. \u00a0And be prepared to admit you might have been wrong — or at least not not continue making the argument when you have doubt you might be right.<\/p>\n

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\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tIt was every reporter's challenge at the RNC: How do you engage voters when their politicians tell outright lies?\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n

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One thing the writer here leaves out is the Big Lie theory — that if you simply state something that is untrue boldly, loudly, and frequently enough, then people who are already inclined to thing it could be true will buy it — because, of course, the people on My Side would never, ever lie. … Continue reading “Living in different worlds of factiness”<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-30056","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":132973,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2017\/03\/03\/the-death-of-thousand-untrue-cuts.html","url_meta":{"origin":30056,"position":0},"title":"The Death of Thousand Untrue Cuts","author":"***Dave","date":"Fri 3-Mar-17 5:14pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Because here's the thing: the evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government over the election in 2016 is merely suggestive. 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