{"id":30230,"date":"2012-09-11T19:56:18","date_gmt":"2012-09-12T01:56:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/09\/11\/re-volting-misuse-of-numbers-part-2209-in-a-series.html"},"modified":"2012-09-11T19:56:18","modified_gmt":"2012-09-12T01:56:18","slug":"re-volting-misuse-of-numbers-part-2209-in-a-series","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/09\/11\/re-volting-misuse-of-numbers-part-2209-in-a-series.html","title":{"rendered":"Re-VOLTing Misuse of Numbers\u00a0\u00a0(Part 2,209 in a series)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>So, yes, GM is losing <i>$40K on every Volt it sells<\/i> (cue Dr. Evil) &#8230; <i>if<\/i> you amortize the entire plant against just the vehicles sold so far. Which no car company does when figuring out whether they are making or losing money, but which apparently makes some people feel better about electric cars being a failure or gasoline cars being the salvation of the world or gasoline being the wave of the future or something..<\/p>\n<p>(The original article is here:\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.reuters.com\/article\/2012\/09\/10\/us-generalmotors-autos-volt-idUSBRE88904J20120910\" class=\"ot-anchor\">http:\/\/www.reuters.com\/article\/2012\/09\/10\/us-generalmotors-autos-volt-idUSBRE88904J20120910<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reshared post from +<a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/102356721871221463140'>George Wiman<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>No, the Chevrolet Volt isn&#39;t losing a lot of money; that is a spurious claim.\u00a0<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n<p style='margin-bottom:5px;'><strong>Embedded Link<\/strong><\/p>\n<div style='height:120px;width:120px;overflow:hidden;float:left;margin-top:0px;padding-top:0px;margin-right:10px;vertical-align:top;text-align:center;clear:both;'>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img style='max-width:none;' src='https:\/\/images0-focus-opensocial.googleusercontent.com\/gadgets\/proxy?container=focus&#038;gadget=a&#038;resize_h=100&#038;url=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs-images.forbes.com%2Fthumbnails%2Fblog_1981%2Fpt_1981_439_o.jpg%3Ft%3D1347378997' border='0' \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href='http:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/boblutz\/2012\/09\/10\/the-real-story-on-gms-volt-costs\/'>The Real Story On GM&#39;s Volt Costs &#8211; Forbes<\/a><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tGeneral Motors Chevrolet Volt (Image credit: Getty Images via @daylife) I was surprised to read Ben Klayman&#39;s piece on alleged astronomical per-unit losses on the Chevrolet &quot;Volt.&quot; Ben is usually a s&#8230;\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'><strong>Google+:<\/strong> Reshared <a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/101083456815352083930\/posts\/igKu6Wb3RsS' target='_new'>1<\/a> times<br \/> <strong>Google+:<\/strong> <a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/101083456815352083930\/posts\/igKu6Wb3RsS' target='_new'>View post on Google+<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>So, yes, GM is losing $40K on every Volt it sells (cue Dr. Evil) &#8230; if you amortize the entire plant against just the vehicles sold so far. Which no car company does when figuring out whether they are making or losing money, but which apparently makes some people feel better about electric cars being &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/09\/11\/re-volting-misuse-of-numbers-part-2209-in-a-series.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Re-VOLTing Misuse of Numbers\u00a0\u00a0(Part 2,209 in a series)&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-30230","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":11930,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2007\/12\/28\/fill_er_with_ethyl.html","url_meta":{"origin":30230,"position":0},"title":"Fill &#8216;er with Ethyl!","author":"***Dave","date":"Fri 28-Dec-07 12:00pm","format":false,"excerpt":"I grew up, early years at least, in a world of \"leaded\" gasoline, where \"ethyl\" was what you wanted in your tank.\u00a0 I remember (as a kid) unleaded gas...","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Big Business&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Big Business","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/big-business"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/images\/ethyl.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":131453,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/09\/07\/because-gasoline-will-always-be-cheap-right.html","url_meta":{"origin":30230,"position":1},"title":"Because gasoline will ALWAYS be cheap, right?","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 7-Sep-16 11:55pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Toyota is taking a serious hit on Prius sales in the US because American consumers are buying SUVs because gas prices are cheap and have always been cheap and will always be cheap.Our national attention span is, alas, pretty damned short. 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