{"id":31424,"date":"2012-11-19T21:13:05","date_gmt":"2012-11-20T04:13:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/11\/19\/hobby-lobby-is-not-a-church.html"},"modified":"2013-05-01T07:42:23","modified_gmt":"2013-05-01T13:42:23","slug":"hobby-lobby-is-not-a-church","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/11\/19\/hobby-lobby-is-not-a-church.html","title":{"rendered":"Hobby Lobby is not a church"},"content":{"rendered":"

Despite the worshipful home crafty types that visit there. \u00a0Per the ruling:<\/p>\n

\u201cHowever, Hobby Lobby and Mardel [its partner company] are not religious organizations.\u00a0Plaintiffs have not cited, and the court has not found, any case concluding that secular, for-profit corporations such as Hobby Lobby and Mardel have a constitutional right to the free exercise of religion.\u201d<\/i><\/p>\n

If otherwise, then one could easily posit a religious rationale for any business to engage in gender discrimination, racial discrimination, age discrimination, and, of course (and especially), religious discrimination. \u00a0While I'm sure that would make some ultra-orthodox employers happy, I don't think that's what most Americans want.\u00a0<\/p>\n

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Despite the worshipful home crafty types that visit there. \u00a0Per the ruling: \u201cHowever, Hobby Lobby and Mardel [its partner company] are not religious organizations.\u00a0Plaintiffs have not cited, and the court has not found, any case concluding that secular, for-profit corporations such as Hobby Lobby and Mardel have a constitutional right to the free exercise of … Continue reading “Hobby Lobby is not a church”<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,109,134,348],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-31424","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-church-state","category-health-care","category-women"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":43316,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/07\/02\/or-perhaps-a-kinder-gentler-religious-discrimination.html","url_meta":{"origin":31424,"position":0},"title":"Or perhaps a kinder, gentler religious discrimination","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 2-Jul-14 9:57am","format":false,"excerpt":"It might be difficult for \"pious\" closely-held family corporations to out-and-out discriminate against hiring or retaining gay employees. 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