{"id":31925,"date":"2012-12-27T15:34:43","date_gmt":"2012-12-27T22:34:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/12\/27\/the-perpetual-trump-of-religious-convictions.html"},"modified":"2012-12-27T15:34:43","modified_gmt":"2012-12-27T22:34:43","slug":"the-perpetual-trump-of-religious-convictions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/12\/27\/the-perpetual-trump-of-religious-convictions.html","title":{"rendered":"The perpetual trump of religious convictions"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>So are people who strongly believe that divorce is not religiously allowed free to not give out marriage licenses where one or both of the applicants are divorced? \u00a0Are people who believe that God intended for the races to stay separate allowed to decline to assist marriage license applicants who are of mixed race? \u00a0Are county clerks who believe that fornication is a sin allowed to give a pass to issuing marriage licenses to a couple who are sharing the same address (and, presumably, bed)?<\/p>\n<p><i>&#39;&quot;There are some [deputy clerks] that have voiced some opposition to doing it &#8212; [they have] religious feelings about it &#8230; so it&#39;s basically my idea that they won&#39;t do any marriage at all,&quot; said Joan Williams, clerk of the St. Mary&#39;s County Circuit Court. &quot;Some people are just very against same-sex marriages, and I have to respect their reasons and their decisions.&quot;&#39;<\/i><\/p>\n<p>If clerks who aren&#39;t willing to provide marriage licenses to same-sex couples are removed from doing marriage licenses as a whole, that&#39;s fine &#8212; no discrimination is taking place. If they are allowed just to give out licenses for marriages of which they religiously approve, then I sense a law suit or twelve coming on.<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n<p style='margin-bottom:5px;'><strong>Embedded Link<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href='http:\/\/washingtonexaminer.com\/same-sex-marriage-faces-some-lingering-resistance-in-md.\/article\/2516883#.UNzLLG_Tbnj'>Same-sex marriage faces some lingering resistance in Md. | WashingtonExaminer.com<\/a><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tWhen same-sex marriage becomes legal in Maryland next week, some employees in the St. Mary&#8217;s County Circuit Court will stop performing marriages, passing the duty on to other employees.\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'> <strong>Google+:<\/strong> <a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/101083456815352083930\/posts\/RxF51oLyGcg' target='_new'>View post on Google+<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>So are people who strongly believe that divorce is not religiously allowed free to not give out marriage licenses where one or both of the applicants are divorced? \u00a0Are people who believe that God intended for the races to stay separate allowed to decline to assist marriage license applicants who are of mixed race? \u00a0Are &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/12\/27\/the-perpetual-trump-of-religious-convictions.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;The perpetual trump of religious convictions&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-31925","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":52017,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2015\/08\/01\/if-non-equality-county-clerks-are-conscientious-objectors-treat-them-as-such.html","url_meta":{"origin":31925,"position":0},"title":"If non-equality county clerks are conscientious objectors, treat them as such","author":"***Dave","date":"Sat 1-Aug-15 1:38pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Attorneys from Liberty Counsel for Kim Davis, the Kentucky county clerk who refuses to issue marriage licenses to gay couples, claim she is like a conscientious objector in wartime. 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