{"id":32084,"date":"2013-01-05T14:33:58","date_gmt":"2013-01-05T21:33:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/01\/05\/rebuilding-churches-with-federal-dollars.html"},"modified":"2013-01-05T14:33:58","modified_gmt":"2013-01-05T21:33:58","slug":"rebuilding-churches-with-federal-dollars","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/01\/05\/rebuilding-churches-with-federal-dollars.html","title":{"rendered":"Rebuilding churches with federal dollars"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#39;m torn on this one &#8230; but I don&#39;t see, constitutionally, how to justify federal grants (vs. loans) directly to religious groups to rebuild houses of worship after a disaster.<\/p>\n<p>(And I suspect some of the folks who&#39;d be most eager to see that happen would be offended if it were a local mosque, or Hindu temple, etc., asking for their tax dollars).<\/p>\n<p>Religious communities don&#39;t get government grants to have their houses of worship built in the first place. They banded together and raised the funds, often over time. \u00a0If they didn&#39;t carry insurance, and can&#39;t afford to rebuild on their own, they can apply for SBA loans and the like. But I honestly don&#39;t particularly want my tax dollars given as a gift to (re)build worship spaces &#8212; not even for my own congregation.<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'>\n<p style='margin-bottom:5px;'><strong>Embedded Link<\/strong><\/p>\n<div style='height:120px;width:120px;overflow:hidden;float:left;margin-top:0px;padding-top:0px;margin-right:10px;vertical-align:top;text-align:center;clear:both;'>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img style='max-width:none;' src='https:\/\/images1-focus-opensocial.googleusercontent.com\/gadgets\/proxy?url=http:\/\/graphics8.nytimes.com\/images\/2013\/01\/04\/nyregion\/FEMARELIGION\/FEMARELIGION-superJumbo-v2.jpg&#038;container=focus&#038;gadget=a&#038;rewriteMime=image\/*&#038;refresh=31536000&#038;resize_h=150&#038;resize_w=150&#038;no_expand=1' border='0' \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href='http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2013\/01\/04\/nyregion\/houses-of-worship-seeking-fema-grants-face-constitutional-barrier.html?_r=0'>Houses of Worship Seeking FEMA Grants Face Constitutional Barrier<\/a><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tJewish organizations are leading an effort to allow storm-damaged houses of worship to qualify for disaster aid despite the separation of church and state.\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'> <strong>Google+:<\/strong> <a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/101083456815352083930\/posts\/3gUh3xRMfbx' target='_new'>View post on Google+<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#39;m torn on this one &#8230; but I don&#39;t see, constitutionally, how to justify federal grants (vs. loans) directly to religious groups to rebuild houses of worship after a disaster. (And I suspect some of the folks who&#39;d be most eager to see that happen would be offended if it were a local mosque, or &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/01\/05\/rebuilding-churches-with-federal-dollars.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Rebuilding churches with federal dollars&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-32084","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":32800,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/03\/08\/your-tax-dollars-at-work.html","url_meta":{"origin":32084,"position":0},"title":"Your tax dollars at work","author":"***Dave","date":"Fri 8-Mar-13 8:25am","format":false,"excerpt":"I certainly feel for those congregations whose churches were damaged or destroyed by Super-Storm Sandy. \u00a0Whether the building was an historic monument or a new construction, it's traumatizing for a someone's worship center to be injured in such a way. \u00a0But I don't want my tax dollars going to as\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":18272,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2010\/08\/26\/because-it%e2%80%99s-all-about-the-scary-muslims-part-2.html","url_meta":{"origin":32084,"position":1},"title":"Because it\u2019s all about the SCARY MUSLIMS!!!! 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