{"id":32211,"date":"2013-01-15T17:22:29","date_gmt":"2013-01-16T00:22:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/01\/15\/women-are-people-too.html"},"modified":"2013-01-15T17:22:29","modified_gmt":"2013-01-16T00:22:29","slug":"women-are-people-too","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/01\/15\/women-are-people-too.html","title":{"rendered":"Women are people, too"},"content":{"rendered":"

Unless, of course, they are pregnant. In which case they are liable to be arrested for drinking, or doing drugs, or doing anything else (legal or not) that someone thinks might endanger their\u00a0pregnancies.<\/p>\n

And "Personhood" laws are making this even worse, with \u00a0such august bodies as the Alabama State Supreme Court ruling\u00a0\u00a0that the word "child" in state laws applies to the pre-born, and thus upholding the conviction of two women for using drugs while pregnant.<\/p>\n

If that were the only case, it might be just some random zaniness from the Deep South. But this article refers to dozens of cases, each more appalling than the last, of women treated as incubators, robbed of their medical rights, and arrested and imprisoned for actions that someone thought endangered their unborn child.<\/p>\n

Don't get me wrong — I think there are all sorts of behaviors that are probably ill-advised in pregnancy. But to put the state (or nosy parker local law enforcement and judges) in charge of a woman's medical judgement (poor or not) means that women are being treated as children, at best,<\/i> dependents who cannot be trusted to behave wisely, make decisions about their own bodies, even their own pregnancies. Women will be thrown in jail, or committed to institutions, if someone thinks they had a few too many drinks, or maybe did some sort of "risky" sport, or perhaps drove a car during rush hour, or went to a "bad" part of town, or maybe aren't eating right, or smoke, or …<\/p>\n

And for "will be", read "have been".<\/p>\n

Appalling. And it's getting worse.<\/p>\n

(h\/t +<\/span>Wendy Cockcroft<\/a><\/span>\u00a0<\/p>\n

Reshared post from +Pamela Zuppo<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n

\u201cPersonhood\u201d and the Punishment of All American Women. The New Jane Doe Laws<\/b><\/p>\n

Well..we are talking about one of the most fucked-up, backward states in the nation – Alabama, but this crazy evangelical shit spreads like a horrific disease. I'm going to start pushing to have all sperm under state law.<\/p>\n

Did you know that last week a pregnant woman in Memphis was arrested and charged with DUI and \u201cchild endangerment\u201d even though passed a test and had no children in her car. She is four months pregnant, however. Whose issue is this? In general, people don\u2019t like thinking women have \u201cissues\u201d unless they\u2019re personal. Individuals, however, are not responsible for the protection of women\u2019s rights. \u201cWe\u201d are.<\/p>\n

Which is why this is the right time to take a moment to say happy new year and congratulations to Alabama! \u00a0On Friday of last week, in what one media report called \u201cthe most important affirmation of the personhood of the pre-born child since the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision,\u201d the Alabama Supreme Court ruled that the word \u201cchild\u201d applies to the pre-born. Because, while we occupied ourselves over the weekend, I\u2019m pretty sure the American Organization of Pre-Modern Pater Familias had a party! \u00a0The ruling upheld the convictions of Hope Ankrom and Amanda Kimbrough, both of whom were prosecuted for using drugs while they were pregnant. \u00a0As I\u2019ve written about before, there are hundreds of women similarly prosecuted, arrested, charged and imprisoned. And, it bears saying again, despite what we know about sperm, toxicity and fetal harm, we have yet to see men\u2019s rights and liberties infringed on in similar fashion in order to \u201cprotect\u201d life or men from themselves. When a fetus is a \u201cchild\u201d does it get a \u201cguardian\u201d as suggested in Arizona? Tax credits, as was sought by Michigan conservatives? Paul Ryan and his personhood party have keep writing \u201csanctity of life\u201d legislation that means rapists can stop their victims from seeking abortions. That means that a rapist can lay claim to her body, against her will, a second time. Let that sink in because these are all threads of the same rope.<\/p>\n

The Alabama Supreme Court just normalized \u201cpersonhood\u201d and created a precedent.<\/p>\n

There are no laws prohibiting pregnant women from smoking, drinking alcohol, or say, seeking drug addiction treatment. For, example, abortion is legal in Alabama. The Alabama legislature passed a law to stop people from taking children into meth labs. The Alabama Supreme Court decided that a \u201cwomb\u201d is a regulated \u201cenvironment.\u201d This is a personhood measure, in which every aspect of a pregnancy can be monitored and controlled by the state, in disguise. We are witnessing the establishment of a separate but unequal system of law that applies to women. What Alabama just did was deprive women in that state of their full personhood. That\u2019s what precedents like Alabama\u2019s do. Women should not lose their civil rights when they conceive.<\/p>\n

http:\/\/www.fem2pt0.com\/2013\/01\/15\/personhood-and-the-punishment-of-all-american-women\/<\/a><\/p>\n

We also need to talk about men who punch, shove, and kick pregnant women, as well as psychological warfare including name calling such as fat pig<\/i>.\u00a0<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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