{"id":32222,"date":"2013-01-16T14:58:01","date_gmt":"2013-01-16T21:58:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/01\/16\/gun-talk.html"},"modified":"2013-01-16T14:58:01","modified_gmt":"2013-01-16T21:58:01","slug":"gun-talk","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/01\/16\/gun-talk.html","title":{"rendered":"Gun Talk"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The video below is actually pretty interesting (minus some of the rhetoric, which is kept under decent control). I don&#39;t agree with some of the conclusions:<\/p>\n<p>1. <b>Assault Rifles are already banned:<\/b> Correct, both technically and practically speaking. Full-auto weapons were banned (blessed St. Ronald actually signed the legislation in a kinder, less insane time) &#8212; or, rather, put under very tight federal control, registration, etc. \u00a0There is no functional difference between a semi-automatic sporting rifle that looks scary and all military and everything and a semi-automatic sporting rifle that looks like a traditional hunting rifle. Collapsible stocks and &quot;furniture&quot; and top handles and flashlight mounts, etc., do not make one more deadly than the other.<\/p>\n<p>I haven&#39;t read the actual suggested legislation for the ban, but if it&#39;s like the previous &quot;assault weapons ban,&quot; it&#39;s not a useful exercise.<\/p>\n<p>2. <b>There are hundreds of millions of magazines over 10 rounds out there, so limiting magazine sizes is useless&quot;<\/b> Well, it&#39;s not as effective as if a ban meant confiscation, but that&#39;s simply not going to happen. But that assumes that anyone will be able to get their hands on a used magazine\u00a0when they want one. \u00a0Maybe (if they already have one, or know someone who has one and can buy it illegally), maybe not (if they want go down to their local WalMart to stock up).<\/p>\n<p>As well, aside from the likelihood of people bootlegging magazine manufacture (like bootleg kits to make semi-automatic weapons full auto), it would seem to me that, over time, use will remove many of these magazines from circulation from wear and tear.<\/p>\n<p>3. <b>You can very quickly change magazines, so the magazine limit is meaningless:<\/b> I disagree. I think there is a difference between a trained shooter, in a rifle range setting, with as many takes as he wants, being able to change taped magazines quickly and efficiently, and a lunatic doing the same, without a fumble or pause or mistake or jam, under shooting spree conditions. It may only add a small percentage chance of failure or delay, but every little bit helps.<\/p>\n<p>It&#39;s not going to <i>solve<\/i> any problems on its own, but it could help in some circumstances, and aside from the inconvenience to sports shooters or hunters who like the larger magazines because they <i>don&#39;t<\/i> have to reload (even if it is a quick, painless process), there seems no harm done.<\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'><iframe type='text\/html' width='97.5%' height='385' src='http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/8C-CLsMRcA0' frameborder='0'><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p style='clear:both;'> <strong>Google+:<\/strong> <a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/101083456815352083930\/posts\/Tm5HQJoACyx' target='_new'>View post on Google+<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The video below is actually pretty interesting (minus some of the rhetoric, which is kept under decent control). I don&#39;t agree with some of the conclusions: 1. Assault Rifles are already banned: Correct, both technically and practically speaking. Full-auto weapons were banned (blessed St. Ronald actually signed the legislation in a kinder, less insane time) &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/01\/16\/gun-talk.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Gun Talk&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-32222","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":132902,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2017\/02\/22\/gun-ownership-rights-are-not-absolute.html","url_meta":{"origin":32222,"position":0},"title":"Gun ownership rights are not absolute","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 22-Feb-17 9:31am","format":false,"excerpt":"A federal appeals court has ruled that Maryland's laws banning \"assault weapons\" and large-capacity magazines was constitutional, opining that such weapons go beyond the Heller decision freedom of arms for self-defense, and that such restrictions were within the sphere of representative government to enact.\"Assault weapon\" tends to have a very\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":32203,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/01\/14\/probably-no-assault-weapons-ban-will-pass.html","url_meta":{"origin":32222,"position":1},"title":"Probably no assault weapons ban will pass","author":"***Dave","date":"Mon 14-Jan-13 8:21pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Or even get serious hearings.That doesn't bother me all that much, as the previous ban was goofy as all heck -- largely because it's nigh-impossible to identify \"bad\" semi-automatic weapons from \"good\" ones, except by saying the \"bad\" ones look \"scary\".And, no, taking away all the guns is not going\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":130889,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/06\/16\/stay-classy-national-rifle-association.html","url_meta":{"origin":32222,"position":2},"title":"Stay classy, National Rifle Association","author":"***Dave","date":"Thu 16-Jun-16 2:31pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Because just two days after the worst one-man massacre in US history is the perfect time to release a video calling on all Americans to buy guns just like the killer used. I mean, clearly if everyone at the dance club had been packing AR-15s, too, nothing could have possibly\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":31873,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/12\/20\/on-assault-rifles-and-magazines.html","url_meta":{"origin":32222,"position":3},"title":"On &quot;Assault Rifles&quot; and Magazines","author":"***Dave","date":"Thu 20-Dec-12 11:20am","format":false,"excerpt":"And by \"magazines\" here I mean the things that hold the bullets that are slid into the gun. Which are not \"clips\", as any two or three dozen people will tell you in comments if you get it wrong.Anyway, the author\u00a0echoes a point I made the other day, that the\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":131557,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/09\/17\/trump-spews-nonsense-on-gun-control.html","url_meta":{"origin":32222,"position":4},"title":"Trump spews nonsense on gun control","author":"***Dave","date":"Sat 17-Sep-16 3:59pm","format":false,"excerpt":"But, then, in his post-factual campaign, why wouldn't he?In case anyone hasn't been paying attention (glances over at Trump supporters), here's the brilliant leap that Citizen Trump has made:A. Clinton wants to tighten gun control laws.B. Therefore Clinton wants to take away everyone's guns.C. 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